Ambient Air Cleaner Setup

[axio]

Hi guys, picked up a Jet Ambient Air filter. Thinking about how to set it up. If I mount it to the ceiling, how do I do that?

My garage has drywall. Just find any studs in the ceiling underneath the drywall, get some big screw hooks or something and screw it in the studs?

Any reason why i shouldn't leave it on the floor on it's side?

[DonHo]

"Any reason why i shouldn't leave it on the floor on it's side?"
If your shop is as small as mine you won't want to waste floor space with an air cleaner that can be mounted elsewhere.

"Just find any studs in the ceiling underneath the drywall, get some big screw hooks or something and screw it in the studs?"
This is what I did. I then used lengths of chain to attach the I bolts on the cleaner to the hooks in the ceiling, doing this let me hang it by myself. Just "walk" the cleaner up the chain a couple of lengths at a time.

DonHo

[MikeMcCoy]

Like Don said, not many of can afford to lose the floorspace but I also don't have any overhead space. In my case I also had a big industrial fan and a Fein Turbo vac also eating up space. I made a 3 shelf rack out of 2X stock that houses all 3 items and use the front and sides for storage also. Put all this on casters so it's pretty portable in spite of the size.

[JR]

Due the orientation of the joists in my shop ceiling I had to put up a couple of 2-bys then put hooks on those at the proper spreads (16" x 30", IIRC).

My air cleaner came with mounting hardware.

JR

[Tom Clark]

floor mounted version

I built this cabinet with the dust collector years ago, before the commercial ones were available. anyway, it sits right next to my workbench where I am always sanding, routing, and making a mess in many other ways. Just thought the photo would give you more things to think about.

Tom

[SARGE..g-47]

Ditto Don Ho and with the modification made by J R as I wanted it dead center in the shop. That also allowed a tall 18" BS on one side and a very tall (1 1/2" ceiling clearance) cyclone on the other side that sit inside two steel center support poles.

Once you get your eye hooks in the proper spacing, the little chains supplied are connected to the eye hook and your Jet should have eye hooks to be attached to the top. If no chains (can't remember)... get some.......

[Papa]

Ambient Air Cleaner

Issue 87 of Shopnotes has a tool tower with an air cleaner mounted on top that looks pretty convenient.

Warren

[steve-norrell]

"Any reason why i shouldn't leave it on the floor on it's side?"
If your shop is as small as mine you won't want to waste floor space with an air cleaner that can be mounted elsewhere.

"Just find any studs in the ceiling underneath the drywall, get some big screw hooks or something and screw it in the studs?"
This is what I did. I then used lengths of chain to attach the I bolts on the cleaner to the hooks in the ceiling, doing this let me hang it by myself. Just "walk" the cleaner up the chain a couple of lengths at a time.

DonHo

This is exactly what I did -- and for the same reason. It works great with the remote that came with my Jet. An added advantage is, now that the cold weather is upon us, that the air clearer does a much better job (than the heater) of circulating warm air. "Walking" the air cleaner up the chains proved to be surprisingly easy.

Good Luck, Steve.

[cgallery]

This is exactly what I did -- and for the same reason. It works great with the remote that came with my Jet. An added advantage is, now that the cold weather is upon us, that the air clearer does a much better job (than the heater) of circulating warm air. "Walking" the air cleaner up the chains proved to be surprisingly easy.

Good Luck, Steve.

And for noise isolation, I once saw a neat trick.

They used eye-hooks and chains. Then they used heavy rubber bands between the ceiling hook and eye hook such that there was a little slack on the chain (not much). If the rubber band fails, the chain takes over and prevents the unit from crashing to the floor.

So if your ceiling is the floor of the upstairs, this trick and greatly reduce the amount of noise transfered.

[axio]

Thanks guys. I ended up getting these eye hooks, screwed them through the drywall and directly into the studs. I used these snap hooks to connect the eye hooks on the ceiling to the eye hooks on the air cleaner.

To add extra support, I used to extra 3/4" ply I had from a recent project and built a little cage to support it, just in case... It vibrates a lot, so the cage brings some peace of mind

[pack04]

How well do ambient air cleaners work? I recently cut some MDF on my table saw and sent a cloud dust flying through out my basement. I understand that the positioning of the table saw and the air cleaner would be a factor, but would most of the MDF dust been filtered?

[Slik Geek]

How well do ambient air cleaners work? I recently cut some MDF on my table saw and sent a cloud dust flying through out my basement.

Not as well as having effective dust collection on the table saw. Your first priority is to collect the dust at the source. The ambient air cleaner's purpose is to help deal with the fraction of the dust that gets past your primary collection means.

(And if you use a "shop vac" with a standard filter as your dust collector, you may actually be dispersing the most hazardous dust into the air. I found that out the hard way and nearly had to give up woodworking).

[ironhat]

You can help the shop vac with a low micron sized filter. They are available for most vacs in the $30 range. It's worth it even if they require more cleaning. The difference was noticeable to my sensitive lungs.

[LCHIEN]

the first line of defense should be a high CFM dust collector at the source, as mentioned. Like something with a 4-6" duct and 1000 CFM or higher.

A shop vac at the table saw will only have about 50-100 CFM and not collect all the dust made by the TS, no way, no how.

Even a good DC will allow some fine dust to escape as will other tools like sanders and CMS's that sling fine dust in all directions. The air cleaner is the second line of defense, with high volumes of flow that make sure each cubic foot of air in the shop goes thru the Air cleaner several times an hour. What escaped the DC should end up in the air cleaner.

[lkazista]

Where do you guys hand your cleaner? Mine is over my TS, but with the exhaust facing towards me (that is the side that the remote needs to look at in order to work).

Does anyone think there is a right or wrong end to point towards the backside of the saw, or do we really believe that it is filtering ALL of the air in a shop 30 times an hour?

I just always look at it and think that I should turn it around for some reason, but I know if i cant turn it on while standing at the saw, I will NEVER bother to turn it on at all (I can be crazy lazy).

Best,

Lee