Kirby’s Shed: 9a. TS Xcut sled

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  • RodKirby
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2002
    • 3136
    • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
    • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

    #1

    Kirby’s Shed: 9a. TS Xcut sled

    Mainly for my Darkside friends:

    This started out to be a "trial" sled. I wasn't sure what I wanted/needed on my new TS. After 18 months, it has done all I've needed, so it stays as is

    I seem to cut a lot of "smaller" stuff, and I find it difficult to exactly align a pencil mark to the blade - can't get over the top to see.

    With the sled, I just move it towards me and align to the saw kerf

    Note travel stop.

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    Guard is 1/4" Lexan

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    Support for the longer stuff:

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    Length stops - for either side of the blade

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    Two UHMWPE runners - 1/4-20 set screws for alignment

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    Last edited by RodKirby; 04-28-2007, 02:41 AM.
    Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm
  • jgrobler
    Established Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 259
    • Salinas, CA, USA.
    • TS3650

    #2
    Looks very nice. No MDF? I like the "cover" in front so the blade stays under cover when the front fence passes over the blade. ummm, one day I'll also have one, until then my BT3 SMT will suffice.

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    • cgallery
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2004
      • 4503
      • Milwaukee, WI
      • BT3K

      #3
      Hey Rod, that looks nice.

      Can you elaborate on how you attach the runners to the sled? And how you use the grubscrews for alignment?

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      • p8ntblr
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 921
        • So Cal
        • Craftsman 22114

        #4
        Nice sled. Did you use plans or is that a RodKirby original?
        -Paul

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        • RodKirby
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          • Dec 2002
          • 3136
          • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
          • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

          #5
          cgallery: I drilled/tapped 1/4-20 holes in the UHMWPE and used panhead bolts (you can see the counterbores in the top 2 pics).

          The set screws allow me to make sure the runners are "snug" in the miter slots - no sideways movement.

          p8ntblr: Kirby original (after looking at a whole lot of books/magazines etc.).
          Last edited by RodKirby; 04-28-2007, 12:45 AM. Reason: grubscrews = set screws
          Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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          • jussi
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 2162

            #6
            Since you made it Rod I'm sure it's perfectly square. Any advice for someone building their first sled on how to assure squareness? Also I'm not too familiar with grub screws. Why did you use those?
            I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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            • RodKirby
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2002
              • 3136
              • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
              • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

              #7
              Originally posted by jussi
              Since you made it Rod I'm sure it's perfectly square. Any advice for someone building their first sled on how to assure squareness? Also I'm not too familiar with grub screws. Why did you use those?
              Ensuring squareness: (This how I did it)
              -Make up the base (with runners), and short fence (glued and screwed). This one doesn't have to be "spot on" square.
              -Predrill the base for screws for the long fence.
              -Set your saw blade height so it won't cut right thru the short fence.
              -Start cutting thru the sled and stop about 1/2" from where the long sled will be located. Switch off the saw.
              -THIS IS THE CRITICAL PART: Using a "reliable" square (maybe a plastic drafing square), place it against the saw blade body, NOT against the teeth. Apply glue to the long fence and place it on the base, aligning it with the square - flip the square to the other side of the blade to make sure you have aligned it properly. Place weights (see second pic as an example) on the long fence - check alignment AGAIN and AGAIN! The weights will make the fence move until the glue "grabs".
              -Walk away - for 24 hours!
              -Predrill pilot holes in the long fence and insert screws.
              -Check saw height! Place the sled on the saw table and complete the cut
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              Grubscrews (Oz) = Set screws (USA) -with a nylon tip, allow you to change the width of the runners so there is no "slop". Note the hex socket in the end.

              Last edited by RodKirby; 04-28-2007, 12:46 AM. Reason: grubscrews translation!
              Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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              • MilDoc

                #8
                OK Rod, just how much to ship you're whole shop Ito meI?

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                • jussi
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 2162

                  #9
                  Thanks Rod. Sounds easy when you explain it.
                  I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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                  • LCHIEN
                    Super Moderator
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 21765
                    • Katy, TX, USA.
                    • BT3000 vintage 1999

                    #10
                    I get it. Grub screw = aussie slang for Set screw in US lingo.
                    Loring in Katy, TX USA
                    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                    BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                    • RodKirby
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 3136
                      • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
                      • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LCHIEN
                      I get it. Grub screw = aussie slang for Set screw in US lingo.
                      Oops - SO sorry guys. I REALLY try to avoid this kind of problem - I will change the posts...

                      Thanks, Loring
                      Last edited by RodKirby; 04-28-2007, 12:48 AM.
                      Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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                      • p8ntblr
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 921
                        • So Cal
                        • Craftsman 22114

                        #12
                        Anyone know where you can get the UHMWPE runners? I haven't dealt with the material before. How easy is to drill through? Any special bits needed? I'm assuming you used a DP?
                        -Paul

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                        • LCHIEN
                          Super Moderator
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 21765
                          • Katy, TX, USA.
                          • BT3000 vintage 1999

                          #13
                          Originally posted by p8ntblr
                          Anyone know where you can get the UHMWPE runners? I haven't dealt with the material before. How easy is to drill through? Any special bits needed? I'm assuming you used a DP?
                          UHMW polyethelene (PE) is widely available. For example:

                          http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...80&filter=uhmw
                          has limited sizes in 48" lengths as well as tape and thin sheets.

                          It's also available in a multitude of sizes and shapes from places like www.USplastics.com

                          For runners in TS miter slots (usually 3/4" x 3/8"), you can get 4" x 48" x 3/4 or 3/8 material and rip the other dimension.

                          It's plastic, kind of slick feeling. Machines and cuts very cleanly and easily with woodworking type tools and cutters (e.g. table saw, bandsaw, drillpress). When cutting with table saw be careful and consider dust collection, because you'll get a snowstorm of white shavings.
                          hand drill will work of course but hard to get perfectly vertical/square drilling by hand.
                          Last edited by LCHIEN; 04-28-2007, 02:33 AM.
                          Loring in Katy, TX USA
                          If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                          BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                          • RodKirby
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 3136
                            • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
                            • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

                            #14
                            Or, if you're in Oz...

                            http://www.woodworksupplies.com.au/prod39.htm

                            3/4" x 3/8" x 24"
                            Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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                            • Knottscott
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                              • Dec 2004
                              • 3815
                              • Rochester, NY.
                              • 2008 Shop Fox W1677

                              #15
                              Rod, you could make a gourmet dinner out of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches!
                              Happiness is sort of like wetting your pants....everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.

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