How to make a FLAT table for building things?

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  • leehljp
    The Full Monte
    • Dec 2002
    • 8773
    • Tunica, MS
    • BT3000/3100

    #1

    How to make a FLAT table for building things?

    I am finally contemplating a small GreenHouse 4 by 8 to cover a galvanized 4 x 8 by 1 ft deep trough. I only want a few tomatoes and green onions, and maybe some leaf lettuce. Initially it will be covered by 1" square mesh wire to keep squirrels out, which is my main reason with having a garden, when I can. I live in town and squirrels can't be shot, and we have LOTS of them! In the summer they eat anything green such as vegetables or fruit. habernaro and cayenne peppered spray does nothing to them. SO, I have lots of 1" square wire to cover the greenhouse cage, bottom to top and roof. Making it squirrel proof.

    PROBLEM : Having made doors for storage buildings in the past (and occasionally other doors), I am totally aware of having a FLAT surface to make a door is a necessity, or otherwise it will twist and not close perfect in all directions, allowing enough room for a squirrel or two to get inside. I need to build two 3ft by 7ft doors for one side, and hope that they close flat to prevent squirrels getting in.

    QUESTION: How do I, or in what way do I make a flat platform out of a sheet of plywood over a 2x4 base so that it is flat in all directions without a warp in it in any direction. How do I measure this in all directions?
    How do I accomplish this?
    I know that I can "level" each corner of the platform or side with shims.
    CORE QUESTION: with only a 4 ft steel rule, how do I know that the platform is equally flat in all directions? By what method do I check the flatness other than my eyes? My experience in building doors is that they "seem" flat in all directions until I hang them up. Then I discover that they were NOT made as flat as I could tell with my eyes. YOUR TIPS AND IDEAS ARE APPRECIATED.

    OH,
    I know that I can add wood latches in multiple places to keep it closed, but I really want to start with a square and level door frame.

    Thanks
    Last edited by leehljp; 05-13-2026, 10:53 AM.
    Hank Lee

    Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!
  • LCHIEN
    Super Moderator
    • Dec 2002
    • 22006
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #2
    Laser level, self leveling. Projects a perfect horizontal and vertical lines perpendicular/parallel to the ground in two directions. You can mark a level line on all the support posts. Not all that expensive if you don't have one.

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    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=laser+level&crid=ZJX5EV9OE3HJ&sprefix=laser+le vel%2Caps%2C202&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
    Last edited by LCHIEN; 05-13-2026, 04:15 PM.
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
    BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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    • Jim Frye
      Jim Frye commented
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      I agree with using a laser level. I have two Ryobi models (a two axis and a three axis) that were inexpensive, but only work indoors. Sunlight washes the line out. And they do come in handy down the road.
  • leehljp
    The Full Monte
    • Dec 2002
    • 8773
    • Tunica, MS
    • BT3000/3100

    #3
    Well, That is one area that I have not gone digital, but it looks like what I need.

    THAT SAID - It dawned on me today that this is going to be outside in the weather and with well chosen HD or Lowes pressure treated wood. NO WAY it is NOT going to warp some, and No WAY to figure which way it will warp. , but there are times I need a flat 4 x8 sized table to build other things. So I will go ahead with my project.

    Now to study on the digital "levels"
    Hank Lee

    Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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    • Jim Frye
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2002
      • 1340
      • Maumee, OH, USA.
      • Ryobi BT3000 & BT3100

      #4
      I once built a temporary assembly table using four straight 2x4s laid on edge on sawhorses and topped with a piece of 3/4 inch plywood screwed to the 2x4s. It was flat enough to assemble an 84 inch tall, 48 inch wide, 17 inch deep cabinet that ended up square and true.
      Jim Frye
      The Nut in the Cellar.
      I've gone out to look for myself. If I return before I get back, have me wait for me.

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      • leehljp
        leehljp commented
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        Thanks Jim. This is what I am aiming at. But being an outside door, I know it is going to warp, but that is where the old school simple twist wood latches come in. That will keep the door closed and squirrels out.
    • LCHIEN
      Super Moderator
      • Dec 2002
      • 22006
      • Katy, TX, USA.
      • BT3000 vintage 1999

      #5
      Recent Review of laser levels


      https://diytooler.org/the-5-best-laser-levels-in-2026/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23779189568&gclid=Cjw KCAjwwpDQBhAuEiwAa-4Wo_bwvTXQGEyHKBuVqYLXSPH6N5uGqzhDmzYFnNlbR9UOD-L2UAzrOhoC-jgQAvD_BwE
      Last edited by LCHIEN; 05-13-2026, 11:06 PM.
      Loring in Katy, TX USA
      If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
      BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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      • LCHIEN
        Super Moderator
        • Dec 2002
        • 22006
        • Katy, TX, USA.
        • BT3000 vintage 1999

        #6
        I have a Stanley Fatmax 77-153 I've had for 15 years, haven't used but once or twice. Red laser, just tested works perfectly.
        if you're interested.
        Last edited by LCHIEN; 05-14-2026, 12:07 AM.
        Loring in Katy, TX USA
        If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
        BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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        • leehljp
          leehljp commented
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          Thanks you. I am just starting to read up on them, but I'll keep this in mind for sure.
      • capncarl
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 3755
        • Leesburg Georgia USA
        • SawStop CTS

        #7
        It’s going to cost a good bit building a door this size if you try to make it solid. You might consider making it a hollow frame type with Unistrut outside perimeter frame. Unistrut is usually nice and straight and square, and square corner connectors were available when I was using it. After constructed you can skin it with whatever you like.

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        • d_meister
          Established Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 253
          • La Conner, WA.
          • BT3000

          #8
          I have a modified torsion box outfeed table I built for my BT3k 20+ years ago. It is single-skinned, but the 4" reinforcement stringers keep it flat. It's similar to the Paulk workbench idea, and there are many on YouTube. Like a cored door, the box construction keeps it flat. I made mine from two sheets of 12mm Baltic Birch, using the genuine Ryobi outfeed table hinges and leg. I added another fold-up leg with a Rockler hinge and adjustable foot.
          https://www.reddit.com/r/Workbenches...t_bench_build/

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