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  • Denco
    Established Member
    • Mar 2003
    • 426
    • Coming soon: California
    • BT3100

    #1

    Wood Lubricant

    I built the router lift in the link below. It came out great, I’m very happy with it. It’s an excellent design. Kudos to the designer. The lift was constructed with plywood purchased at the BORG. In the instructions, the designer noted to lube the carriage tracks with petroleum jelly. Although I have no reason to doubt him, I was just wondering if there were good, alternative lube options available. I was thinking the petroleum jelly might attract saw dust (but I have no experience with it so I don't really know). I’m more interested in lube I can pick up at the big box stores instead of ordering online for this project. Any ideas? Very grateful in advance for any wisdom shared.


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  • lombard
    Forum Newbie
    • Feb 2004
    • 35
    • Merritt Island, FL

    #2
    I'd imagine any dry film (molybdenum disulfide or similar) would work.

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    • leehljp
      The Full Monte
      • Dec 2002
      • 8690
      • Tunica, MS
      • BT3000/3100

      #3
      I would be tempted to try waxing with hard parafin wax.
      Hank Lee

      Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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      • JSUPreston
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 1189
        • Montgomery, AL.
        • Delta 36-979 w/Biesemyere fence kit making it a 36-982. Previous saw was BT3100-1.

        #4
        Powdered graphite like we used to use for Pinewood Derby?
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        • cabinetman
          Gone but not Forgotten RIP
          • Jun 2006
          • 15216
          • So. Florida
          • Delta

          #5
          Originally posted by JSUPreston
          Powdered graphite like we used to use for Pinewood Derby?
          +1. I would try graphite.

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          • pelligrini
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 4217
            • Fort Worth, TX
            • Craftsman 21829

            #6
            Wax it, all shops should have a can of wax.
            Erik

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            • LCHIEN
              Super Moderator
              • Dec 2002
              • 21741
              • Katy, TX, USA.
              • BT3000 vintage 1999

              #7
              as mentioned, powdered graphite or some paste wax woudld be my go to for wood lubrication.
              Loring in Katy, TX USA
              If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
              BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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              • pelligrini
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 4217
                • Fort Worth, TX
                • Craftsman 21829

                #8
                I've found graphite to be extremely messy. I tried some spray on graphite on my saw and the back gate latch and it was always showing up on something, like my hands. The worst was a busted tube of powder for locks. I ended up tossing a floor mat that was embedded with it.
                Erik

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                • cabinetman
                  Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 15216
                  • So. Florida
                  • Delta

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pelligrini
                  Wax it, all shops should have a can of wax.
                  Why is that?

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                  • LCHIEN
                    Super Moderator
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 21741
                    • Katy, TX, USA.
                    • BT3000 vintage 1999

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cabinetman
                    Why is that?

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                    i agree with pellegrini beause wax can be widely used in a shop. Waxing table tops and other aluminum and iron surfaces that you want to protect and finishing wood and a non-liquid dry lubricant. Certainly can find many uses for it in the shop.
                    Loring in Katy, TX USA
                    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                    BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                    • mpc
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 997
                      • Cypress, CA, USA.
                      • BT3000 orig 13amp model

                      #11
                      Silicon-free paste wax (furniture wax, not automotive wax) works well to lubricate wood parts, prevent rust on table saw tops, and to make it easier to slide workpieces over said table saw top. (or bandsaw table, etc.)

                      Johnson's paste wax is readily available at the big-box hardware stores, typically in the isle with furniture polish. Look for a squat yellow can.

                      It's probably too late for your lift... but I'd consider some UHMW plastic strips (you can buy UHMW "tape" too; I don't know how permanently it sticks though) in the tracks that support the moving assembly. Or you can make shallow rabbets in that moving assembly plate - and trim a little off the top & bottom edges too - and attach the UHMW to that instead.

                      mpc

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                      • cabinetman
                        Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 15216
                        • So. Florida
                        • Delta

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LCHIEN
                        i agree with pellegrini beause wax can be widely used in a shop. Waxing table tops and other aluminum and iron surfaces that you want to protect and finishing wood and a non-liquid dry lubricant. Certainly can find many uses for it in the shop.
                        I agree, that a wax like JPW could have many uses in the shop. Like any products used in a shop one should be aware of the caveats concerning the products.

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                        • leehljp
                          The Full Monte
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 8690
                          • Tunica, MS
                          • BT3000/3100

                          #13
                          You guys have mentioned paste wax (JPW) and that is fine, but I have to ask if it has any advantages over hard parafin wax, other than easier to apply. I may not know of the disadvantges of parafin wax but it has been my experience (from seeing it used back in the '50s on the farm) that the hard parafin wax lasts longer and is more heavy duty for moving wood parts against each other.

                          Dad, my uncles and other carpenters that I was around had JPW back then but they kept hard wax around for moving wood parts. JPW is more light weight, probably because of the distilates than make it softer and easier to apply.

                          To me, JPW is as much or more for surface protection than for constant friction action.

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                          Last edited by leehljp; 06-22-2013, 07:09 AM.
                          Hank Lee

                          Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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                          • cabinetman
                            Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 15216
                            • So. Florida
                            • Delta

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pelligrini
                            I've found graphite to be extremely messy. I tried some spray on graphite on my saw and the back gate latch and it was always showing up on something, like my hands. The worst was a busted tube of powder for locks. I ended up tossing a floor mat that was embedded with it.
                            Sounds like you just used too much.

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                            • LinuxRandal
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 4890
                              • Independence, MO, USA.
                              • bt3100

                              #15
                              Hank

                              JPW, is just one brand of paste wax. My neighborhood was built in the 20's, and one neighbor I grew up with, was the second owner and longest neighborhood resident (died days before her 101st birthday, still living at home). JPW was one of two brands of paste wax, that was used on the hard wood floors, long before how they are done now. The other brand (can't remember at the moment, something like Treewax) was a harder wax, that didn't go on as easily, but would last longer, buff to a shine (where JPW, was dull), and cause the floors to be slicker underfoot.
                              So it was how slick do you want it, how hard do you want to work and how often do you want to wax them.
                              She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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