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  • BeauxTi
    Established Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 108
    • Georgetown Texas
    • Ryobi BT300

    Box Joint/Drawer question

    I am building drawers for my work bench (first time). After a lot of trail and error, I was finally able to produce consistent Box Joints. The problem I have is - after all the sides are cut, I ran them through the saw for the grove to slide the bottom of the Drawer in. it was then I realized I ended up cutting out/shaving some of the fingers of the joints. this left holes in the corners once I glued up. Any one have an answer? Thanks in advance if you do!
    Beaux Ti -

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  • mpc
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2005
    • 984
    • Cypress, CA, USA.
    • BT3000 orig 13amp model

    #2
    Yup, standard. Little square bits have to be glued in after the fact to seal the holes.
    One option for future boxes: dry-fit the 4 sides together and clamp them with a band clamp, tape, whatever. Then use a slot-cutting router bit (on a router table) with a bearing to guide it. The corners of the groove will be rounded... either use a chisel to finish them or just round off the corners of the bottom piece to match.

    mpc

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    • LCHIEN
      Internet Fact Checker
      • Dec 2002
      • 21116
      • Katy, TX, USA.
      • BT3000 vintage 1999

      #3
      that's the norm.
      Usually for a drawer the holes will be in the back and there'll be a front panel to cover the ones in front... so not normally visible.
      You can cut some little pieces and glue them in the holes... if it really bothers you.

      using wider fingers and a narrow slot, try and place the slot in the middle of one finger so as to minimize the appearance/number of fingers affected.

      Curious, What jig did you finally use to cut your box joints? Pictures, results?
      Loring in Katy, TX USA
      If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
      BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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      • BeauxTi
        Established Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 108
        • Georgetown Texas
        • Ryobi BT300

        #4
        The Jig is not pretty ;^) I will post some pics later this morning. Hard to keep the spacer in place for the matching first cut. I learned a ton just building one Drawer. Now just have to hang it.

        On the groove issue - the folks who make the little boxes, for jewelry and the like. They must attach the bottom directly to the bottom. Guess strength not as much as an issue as a Drawer bottom.
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        • Stytooner
          Roll Tide RIP Lee
          • Dec 2002
          • 4301
          • Robertsdale, AL, USA.
          • BT3100

          #5
          You can do a stopped dado fairly easy if you use a router table. I have used those quite often when doing a raw edged chess board or putting bread board ends on a table.
          Lee

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          • LCHIEN
            Internet Fact Checker
            • Dec 2002
            • 21116
            • Katy, TX, USA.
            • BT3000 vintage 1999

            #6
            Originally posted by Stytooner
            You can do a stopped dado fairly easy if you use a router table. I have used those quite often when doing a raw edged chess board or putting bread board ends on a table.
            That'll do it. The dado will have to extend at least part ways in to the finger, but it will look nice from the outside - no gaposis.
            Loring in Katy, TX USA
            If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
            BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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            • BeauxTi
              Established Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 108
              • Georgetown Texas
              • Ryobi BT300

              #7
              Pics - How to post?

              I have photos now just need to know how to post.
              Beaux Ti -

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              • LCHIEN
                Internet Fact Checker
                • Dec 2002
                • 21116
                • Katy, TX, USA.
                • BT3000 vintage 1999

                #8
                Originally posted by BeauxTi
                I have photos now just need to know how to post.
                When you reply it opens a window that says Quick reply. At the bottom, You have to check "Go advanced". You'll then see a Reply to Thread window.
                You see a message box where you type the message, on the right there's a smaller box that says "my photos"; click Quick Upload which will open a small popup.





                In the popup, use the choose file to select a file on your computer. THis should ideally be a JPG file which most cameras make. There is a size limitation.
                Then click "Host it" which causes your file to be sent to BT3 central to be stored. If successful, it also puts a IMG (image) hyptertext link into your message that points at the file on BT3central and will display it at that point in your text.
                Typing below that will put more text after the picture.

                Good luck
                Last edited by LCHIEN; 01-22-2012, 01:24 PM.
                Loring in Katy, TX USA
                If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                • BeauxTi
                  Established Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 108
                  • Georgetown Texas
                  • Ryobi BT300

                  #9
                  Can you see this?

                  I uploaded an Album - hope it is public

                  http://www.bt3central.com/album.php?albumid=78

                  I tried the quick upload but there must be a browser setting off- I only got the window to show the message - then it stoped loading.
                  Last edited by BeauxTi; 01-22-2012, 01:49 PM.
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                  • LCHIEN
                    Internet Fact Checker
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 21116
                    • Katy, TX, USA.
                    • BT3000 vintage 1999

                    #10
                    your drawers came out great
                    Loring in Katy, TX USA
                    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                    BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                    • BeauxTi
                      Established Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 108
                      • Georgetown Texas
                      • Ryobi BT300

                      #11
                      Thanks for the guidance and help. I did notice you did not comment on my Gerry Rig "JIG" ;-). I am going to add some Peg board on the ends of the bench to hang the stuff I will be using for each project.
                      Beaux Ti -

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                      • Cochese
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 1988

                        #12
                        Nice tight joints there. Job well done.
                        I have a little blog about my shop

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                        • chopnhack
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 3779
                          • Florida
                          • Ryobi BT3100

                          #13
                          Beaux, the drawers look great! After doing the trial and error did you learn a different way to sneak up on the line?
                          I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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                          • BeauxTi
                            Established Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 108
                            • Georgetown Texas
                            • Ryobi BT300

                            #14
                            What I learned - or think I learned - I will live with the holes ;-). In the end, I am making storage for a work bench and what I have created is strong, functional and, I might add, a bit attractive. I know down the road I am going to have to get a router - just too much you can do with it that is limited on a table saw. Like LCHIEN says - if all you have is a hammer then all the problems look like nails! Again - you guys have been great. Glad I found the site and that you guys keep it going.
                            Beaux Ti -

                            If you see a Bomb Tech running, follow him....

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                            • radhak
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 3061
                              • Miramar, FL
                              • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BeauxTi
                              Thanks for the guidance and help. I did notice you did not comment on my Gerry Rig "JIG" ;-). I am going to add some Peg board on the ends of the bench to hang the stuff I will be using for each project.
                              With the joints coming out so neat, nobody's going to begrudge you a less-than-pretty jig - actually, that's a great jig to give you such good output!
                              It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
                              - Aristotle

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