When are stretchers needed for a table?

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  • radhak
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 3061
    • Miramar, FL
    • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

    #1

    When are stretchers needed for a table?

    I thought stretchers make a table rack-proof. But also find many tables without stretchers :

    Then, where do designs like the below get their strength? Will just the joints (M&T) suffice?



    Is there any guideline on when are stretchers needed?
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  • gary
    Senior Member
    • May 2004
    • 893
    • Versailles, KY, USA.

    #2
    Yes, tables like this are strong enough but are more fragile than if you had stretchers.



    A haunched mortise and tenon provides more strength imho



    Gary

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    • dbhost
      Slow and steady
      • Apr 2008
      • 9544
      • League City, Texas
      • Ryobi BT3100

      #3
      When are the stretchers needed...

      A lot sooner than back in my college days. I think about 8 or 9 margaritas should do the trick!
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      • drumpriest
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2004
        • 3338
        • Pittsburgh, Pa, USA.
        • Powermatic PM 2000

        #4
        radhak, I am not entirely sure when it's correct to have stretchers, I do it when I want overkill, and they won't get in the way. When I'm building for the kids (nieces, nephew, and my little guy when he needs stuff), I'll overkill like crazy, never know what they'll do to it.

        I didn't use it for this...


        But I was able to lay down on that table without it even complaining, so it's plenty strong with the mortise and tenon joints. I would think on a desk like that one, it wouldn't be a problem, not so likely that someone sits on it, etc...
        Keith Z. Leonard
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        • cabinetman
          Gone but not Forgotten RIP
          • Jun 2006
          • 15216
          • So. Florida
          • Delta

          #5
          The size of the apron and the fit of the joint will determine the strength. The apron/leg joint acts like a gusset for the leg. If they fit in the design and purpose of the furniture, stretchers do add strength.
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          • crokett
            The Full Monte
            • Jan 2003
            • 10627
            • Mebane, NC, USA.
            • Ryobi BT3000

            #6
            What is the advantage to the haunched M/T? I would think a full tenon is stronger since a haunched one you are removing part of the tenon.
            David

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