Which glue?

[poolhound]

The temperature is starting to head upwards here in Phoenix, we have now had nearly a week of mid 90s and we will be into triple digits soon enough.

One issue with the rising temps is that wood glue goes off really quickly

Its not too much problem with small glue ups but anything with multiple joints that need gluing at the same time becomes a real problem. I use mostly titebond (not great in the heat) but was wondering what everybody else uses and what you have found provides for longer glue-up times and is not detrimentally effected by higher temperatures.

[Tom Slick]

titebond has three different curing times so you may be able to switch to a slower curing time.

[gsmittle]

I believe there's a Titebond Extend (or some such), that has an open time longer than Titebond III.

Maybe one of the chemists can chime in and tell if adding a small amount of water would extend the open time without weakening the bond?

g.

[drumpriest]

I would recommend plastic resin glue. Dries better in warmer temps, and has about a 30min open time. Dap sells it as weldwood. Only downsides is that you mix it from powder, and it's really bad for you, so you should mix it while wearing a respirator.

[poolhound]

I believe there's a Titebond Extend (or some such), that has an open time longer than Titebond III.

Maybe one of the chemists can chime in and tell if adding a small amount of water would extend the open time without weakening the bond?

g.

TB II is what I use now, it is supposed to have an "extended" open time. They quote 10 mins at 70 degrees and 50% humidity. this morning when I did a glue-up I would be lucky to have got 4-5 mins. It is of course hotter and drier here.

The TB hide glue has the same open time but 5 more mins assembly. I just found the extend TB II in the cabinet shop section. The assembly time is the same but the open time is 15 mins. I will have to try and find some and see if its any better.

Are there glues with longer open times?

[TheRic]

How about Elmer's white glue? I seem to remember something a while back, I think on this site, about the big difference between white glue and wood glue was the set time.

Found this link, there was a link in this thread to an article on bt3, but the link is broken. Did a search in the articles section with no luck.

http://www.bt3central.com/showthread...ght=white+glue

[pecker]

Titebond III gives more time than regular TB.
I like the TB Extend, but there are 2 versions of it. The white stuff gives lots of time to assemble your work, but is a bit runny. It might be the same stuff as Elmer's white. But when I tried the yellow version, which is water resistant, it seemed to set up as quick as regular TB.

There is also TB liquid hide glue, which gives a long work time. But I don't like working with it...seems very sticky on your hands, and a bit harder to get off the wood when it's in a place you didn't want it to be.

[footprintsinconc]

when i was up at rockler last year. the guy there showed me a table and he suggested that TB III. he said that he gets like 15 minutes out of it. so i bought that and the work time wasnt much. i felt like i had maybe 5 to 7 minutes and that was it. i didtn realize that they have the extend version nor did the guy there mention it.

[drumpriest]

I say again....

http://www.acehardware.com/sm-dap-an...i-1409486.html

30 minute open time. 12 hours in the clamps.

[dbhost]

Dude, Do you work in your garage? Not sure this is a good idea, but when I lived in Tucson, I recall having swamp coolers, even in the garage. Drop your temps real well, but sure does raise the humidity...

[tlt]

Dude, Do you work in your garage? Not sure this is a good idea, but when I lived in Tucson, I recall having swamp coolers, even in the garage. Drop your temps real well, but sure does raise the humidity...

lol, i've got one of those portable swamp coolers here in my garage...drops the temp by 10-15 degrees, but it feels like north carolina in there!

[poolhound]

lol, i've got one of those portable swamp coolers here in my garage...drops the temp by 10-15 degrees, but it feels like north carolina in there!

Me too and it hasnt even got hot yet -its merely in the 90s. In a couple of months we will be praying for it to get back to the 90s sometime in September if we are lucky