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  • mcgrath4u
    Established Member
    • Jun 2004
    • 205
    • Livonia, Michigan, USA.
    • Sears (Orion Made) 22124

    How to dish out stool?

    I am in the process of making two 3-legged stools and I need to scoop out the middle. I was suppose to resaw to a decent shape, but it didnt end up like I wanted it in the end. So my question is: What is the best method of scooping out the dish in the stool seat?

    Thanks in advance,
    John
  • ke4rdb
    Forum Newbie
    • Mar 2006
    • 83
    • Mooresville, NC
    • Ridgid TS3650

    #2
    Hand Asz (Hope correct spelling), curved drawplane, curved spokeplane (maybe), rough out with a plunge router finish with chisels & gouges, lots of sanding...in other words hand tools.

    JW
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    • JR
      The Full Monte
      • Feb 2004
      • 5633
      • Eugene, OR
      • BT3000

      #3
      I saw an article recently, must have been in Fine Woodworking. They made a sled for the router to solve this problem.

      The sled had two rail, both of which dipped in the middle. A custom router plate spanned the two rails. As you ran the router from one end of the rails to the othe, the bit dipped into the wood, carving out the seat.

      If you're just looking for a dip in the seat, that's all there is to it. If you want to have a more complex shape, say one that has rise in the middle of the front part where your legs go, you need a more complex sled arrangement.

      JR
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      • LarryG
        The Full Monte
        • May 2004
        • 6693
        • Off The Back
        • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

        #4
        Gotta admit, I did a double-take when I read your Subject line ...

        If you have a right-angle grinder, there are shaping wheels available that will make short work of this job. David Marks uses one on some of his "WoodWorks" projects. However, the one he uses is pretty spendy (upwards of $100, IIRC) and I don't know if there are cheaper models available.
        Larry

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        • Ed62
          The Full Monte
          • Oct 2006
          • 6022
          • NW Indiana
          • BT3K

          #5
          Originally posted by LarryG
          Gotta admit, I did a double-take when I read your Subject line ...
          Yeah, me too.

          Ed
          Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

          For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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          • cabinetman
            Gone but not Forgotten RIP
            • Jun 2006
            • 15218
            • So. Florida
            • Delta

            #6
            You would make a line where the dish will end, and where the center is. You can use a convex spokeshave, convex drawknife, or a mini handplane, like the one pictured (Stanley 12-101).



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            • mcgrath4u
              Established Member
              • Jun 2004
              • 205
              • Livonia, Michigan, USA.
              • Sears (Orion Made) 22124

              #7
              Thanks for the tips. There was no way around the title. "How to scoop the stool" would of been worse.

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              • drumpriest
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2004
                • 3338
                • Pittsburgh, Pa, USA.
                • Powermatic PM 2000

                #8
                There is a carbide cutter for angle grinders, that's what David Marks used. It's a bit pricy, but takes out the material in a hurry. I can envision the router jig also, basically a cradle, yeah?
                Keith Z. Leonard
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                • mcgrath4u
                  Established Member
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 205
                  • Livonia, Michigan, USA.
                  • Sears (Orion Made) 22124

                  #9
                  The router cradle will work well. Everthing is dished scooped to the same slope.

                  Just came to me, instead of a cradle, use an angled board with stops. This will rotate around the stool chair to complete it . Far easier to build and will take only a little to sand the chair to a scoop.

                  Thanks for the great ideas!

                  John

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                  • Pappy
                    The Full Monte
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 10453
                    • San Marcos, TX, USA.
                    • BT3000 (x2)

                    #10
                    HF has one of the grinder cutter heads. I have one but haven't used it so I can't comment on the quality. Don't remember the price but it wasn't too much.
                    Don, aka Pappy,

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                    • sleddogg
                      Forum Newbie
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 69
                      • Reedsburg, WI
                      • Ryobi BT3100 Italian blade

                      #11
                      I recently saw a article on making arched top guitars where they marked lines around the perimeter of the guitar top and drilled holes to the desired different finish depths of each line (think of an elevation map) and then removed the material in between. Like connect the dots.

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                      • Black wallnut
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                        • Jan 2003
                        • 4715
                        • Ellensburg, Wa, USA.
                        • BT3k 1999

                        #12
                        This may be the hard way but.... when I made my youngest son's high chair I routed out most of the seat with the bit set deepest in the middle and gradually shallower towards the sides. Then I used my ROS to finish it. Progressing through grits until 220. The downside of this method is since it was all free hand there really was not much control of the final demensions. That is not as bad as it may seem as Inow have a "one-of-a-kind" heirloom highchair!
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                        • mcgrath4u
                          Established Member
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 205
                          • Livonia, Michigan, USA.
                          • Sears (Orion Made) 22124

                          #13
                          Pappy,

                          I also remembered seeing those in a harborfreight ad, but can no longer find them in the store, magazines, or online. Do you or does anyone else remember the number?

                          John

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                          • Carpintero
                            Forum Newbie
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 20
                            • Reynosa, Tamaulipas, Mexico.

                            #14
                            John,

                            I believe there is a way to do this if you build a square to serve as afence to your table saw, then place it off center, the amount of "scoop" depends of the amount the fence is offsett in combination to the amount the blade is rised, think of this as making cove molding, the blade is safely (when properly set up) under the seat itself thus posing a reduced danger to the operator.

                            I had a picture of this set up let me look it up, and i will post it upon finding it.
                            Saludos,
                            Ziggy in Mexico

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                            • WayneJ
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 785
                              • Elmwood Park, New Jersey, USA.

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Pappy
                              HF has one of the grinder cutter heads. I have one but haven't used it so I can't comment on the quality. Don't remember the price but it wasn't too much.
                              The one that harbor freight has is about 4 -41/2" in dia. Its made like a round chain saw. It should be in the power tool section, by the saw blades. Its called lancelot, The number on the package is 45822. HTH
                              Wayne
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