Fence mounted hold-down roller

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  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
    • 10627
    • Mebane, NC, USA.
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #16
    That is a great idea and I think it is something I will use. I also already have some ideas on improving the vertical height adjustment
    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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    • JSCOOK
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2006
      • 774
      • Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
      • Ryobi BT3100-1

      #17
      Cool Idea .... could you somehow use a set of jamnuts on a beefy threaded rod to do height adjustment to eliminate the spacers?
      "Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn". by C.S. Lewis

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      • niki
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2006
        • 566
        • Poland
        • EB PK255

        #18
        Thank you so much

        David (crokett)
        And when you do it, don’t forget the camera at home…

        JSCOOK
        Maybe you can. I like everything strong, and I think that if the wooden base will hang on two screws it might be flexible. Maybe two L shape angle irons will work better. I prefer it bolted strongly to the fence.
        But try and see how it will work.

        niki

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        • billwmeyer
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2003
          • 1868
          • Weir, Ks, USA.
          • BT3000

          #19
          Great work Niki! I will have to make something like that! I think I might try using a bolt set up with a nut and washer under the metal and over the metal so that it can be adjustable by raising and lowering the nut. I will probably mount a piece of wood on top of the fence and put a carrage bolt upwards through the wood for the double nut system.

          Bill
          "I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in."-Kenny Rogers

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          • footprintsinconc
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 1759
            • Roseville (Sacramento), CA
            • BT3100

            #20
            jig

            niki,

            great posting! like i said before, your picture tutorials are excellent - keep up the great work!

            hopefully when i get my cabinets done, i need to try to do something about my TS fence alignment wise, then i am going to attempt to make a couple of these types of jigs. they make a lot of sense and are extremely usefull.

            about the setup, i have seen a number of your pictures (from other postings aswell) there is board that seems like it is 12" wide that sits on the rail in front of the TS and extents maybe 8'-0" infront of the TS. what does that setup look like? can you give details of it? i am assuming that it is there because you are supporting the boards that you feed into the table saw. but then how do you support those pieces on the back end of the table saw (as you have supported it in a picture in your "straight edge" posting?

            on the side, what type of a TS do you have?

            thanks
            _________________________
            omar

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            • niki
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 566
              • Poland
              • EB PK255

              #21
              Hi Omar

              They are called "Infeed table" and "Outfeed table".

              They fit on the rails and I can move them left/right to fit the work width.
              The rails that you see on the pictures, are not for the fence but for the sliding table.

              The TS is a German made "Elektra beckum PK 255" (Metabo group), you don't have them in US.

              I think that you will understand everything from the pics, but if you have some questions, shoot.

              Regards
              niki











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              • niki
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2006
                • 566
                • Poland
                • EB PK255

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                • cabinetman
                  Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 15216
                  • So. Florida
                  • Delta

                  #23
                  Compliments to Niki. When Niki first started on this roller assembly, as with many of his jigs and machining tools, and I call them tools, the trial and error part of what works and what works well makes a difference. For table saw operations such as ripping long or wide panels I'm sure you've found out that the pass through the blade against the fence entails both concentration and quite a bit of physical arhletics. On long panels it's necessary to take a step or two while pushing (guiding) the panel through. On wide or long panels there is also the need to change hand positions to accomplish a complete cut. So, when you combine taking a step or two and in the process move your hands around on the panel, getting a tight fit to the fence and a smooth pass at the same time safely is a real feat.

                  One other point that I want to emphasize is doing dadoes and grooves on the TS. The above mentioned difficulties are even more obvious when doing dadoes or grooves with a stack dadoe set. A lot of downward pressure is required for those procedures, for a proper and continuous cut. A hold down roller and featherboard helps a great deal. Personally, because of certain physical limitations, I don't usually do those on a TS, but rather with a router.



                  "I'M NEVER WRONG - BUT I'M NOT ALWAYS RIGHT"
                  Last edited by cabinetman; 12-04-2006, 02:04 PM.

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                  • jseklund
                    Established Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 428

                    #24
                    Niki,
                    I am just beginning, but your amazing creativity and knowledge has already taught me more than you probably know about the possibilities of how to accomplish things- some of which I wouldn't even think of accomplishing before I saw some of these ideas.

                    Great stuff. I can't thank you enough. Keep up the great work.
                    F#$@ no good piece of S#$% piece of #$@#% #@$#% #$@#$ wood! Dang. - Me woodworking

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                    • niki
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 566
                      • Poland
                      • EB PK255

                      #25
                      Thank you both for your kind words

                      Cabinetman
                      I also don't cut dadoes on the TS.
                      Dado blades are not so "popular" in Europe and as you can see on the pics, I don't have even a normal throat for dado blade.

                      I like to make dadoes with the router, sometimes it's better to bring the small tool to the big plate and not the big plate to the tool.

                      niki

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                      • wwday3
                        Forum Newbie
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 71
                        • Eagle, ID, USA.

                        #26
                        Cool idea

                        Another thought about the wheel....

                        They have spring loaded wheels for gates in case the ground under the gate is irregular. I wonder how something like that might work. Of course, the wheel is bigger...
                        Two wrongs do not make a right, but three rights do make a left.

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