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  • BobSch
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    • Aug 2004
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    #16
    I think the solvent you're asking about is MEK — Methyl Ethyl Ketone.

    http://www.scorecard.org/chemical-pr...nce_id=78-93-3

    I'm going to side with Loring here. Since epoxy is a checmical reaction and not just a "drying" one, thinning probably won't work.
    Bob

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    • cabinetman
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      • Jun 2006
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      #17
      Hey Bob

      I think the last time I did fiberglass stuff "MEK" was the catalyst for the resin. Yes or no?



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      • leehljp
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        • Dec 2002
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        #18
        Found my links on thinning epoxy

        OK, one more time on the epoxy thinning - two links:

        Link that deals with thinning epoxy for different reasons -
        http://www.epoxyproducts.com/penetrating4u.html

        A discussion on thinning epoxy for penetrating wood pen blanks to stabilizing it. Scroll about 3/4 of the ways down and look for the answer from Mesquiteman:
        http://www.penturners.org/forum/topi...=Epoxy,thinner

        Another link for epoxy for sealing wood:
        http://www.rotdoctor.com/epoxy/epoxymain.html
        Last edited by leehljp; 08-24-2006, 09:44 AM.
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        • bigsteel15
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          #19
          Originally posted by BobSch
          I think the solvent you're asking about is MEK — Methyl Ethyl Ketone.

          http://www.scorecard.org/chemical-pr...nce_id=78-93-3

          I'm going to side with Loring here. Since epoxy is a checmical reaction and not just a "drying" one, thinning probably won't work.
          That is NASTY stuff!!!
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          • BobSch
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            #20
            Originally posted by cabinetman
            Hey Bob

            I think the last time I did fiberglass stuff "MEK" was the catalyst for the resin. Yes or no?



            "I'M NEVER WRONG - BUT I'M NOT ALWAYS RIGHT"
            It's been a long time since I did any fiberglass work, but it seemed to me that MEK was what we used to clean off our tools, not the catalyst.
            Last edited by BobSch; 08-24-2006, 01:59 PM.
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            • jking
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              • May 2003
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              #21
              I seem to remember a short article in one of the WW mags about an epoxy based sealer. I don't remember the specifics. If I remember, I look for it tonight.

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              • lrogers
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                #22
                Wow, this is getting more and more interesting by the minute! I asked another R/C'er (planes) here at work and he said he uses epoxy thinned with alcohol all the time to seal/fuel proof firewalls in his planes.
                The little project I'm working on is for use with my helos so there could be contact with fuel. I've got some scrap so I'm going to give it a try and let you all know how it turns out.
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                • Esteban
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                  • Jun 2003
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                  • Puerto Rico.

                  #23
                  MEK is the catalyst for polyester resin aka: fiberglass.
                  Its fumes are very dangerous to people with heart conditions. Also found on many paint removers.
                  Last edited by Esteban; 08-24-2006, 12:47 PM.

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                  • Tom Slick
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Esteban
                    MEK is the catalyst for polyester resin aka: fiberglass.
                    Its fumes are very dangerous to people with heart conditions. Also found on many paint removers.
                    Actually MEKP is the catalyst for polyester resin. it is very different from regular MEK, I work with both on a regular basis.
                    Alcohol or Acetone are considered epoxy thinners although the manufacturer of the epoxy would be your best source for info on thinning their epoxy.
                    Last edited by Tom Slick; 08-24-2006, 07:32 PM.
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                    • LCHIEN
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                      • Dec 2002
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by lrogers
                      Wow, this is getting more and more interesting by the minute! I asked another R/C'er (planes) here at work and he said he uses epoxy thinned with alcohol all the time to seal/fuel proof firewalls in his planes.
                      The little project I'm working on is for use with my helos so there could be contact with fuel. I've got some scrap so I'm going to give it a try and let you all know how it turns out.
                      I guess that works if
                      1) the alcohol mixes well with the epoxy and
                      2) the alcohol evaporates much faster than the epoxy working time (so that the epoxy can maintain its integrity as the alcohol evaporates).
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                      • lrogers
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                        #26
                        Well, I tried it today on a piece of scrap. first observation, a little alcohol goes a LOOOOONG way. I used too much, but the results are promising. I also tried just smoothing some un-cut epoxy over the oiece and I think that worked okay too. Next step is to lightly sand both pieces and see which gives the better surface for finishing.
                        Larry R. Rogers
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                        • Tom Slick
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                          #27
                          here is a link to west systems page on thinning

                          http://www.westsystem.com/webpages/u...#thinningepoxy
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                          • lrogers
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                            #28
                            Okay fellows, here's my final report on this question. The epoxy I thinned (I did use to much alcohol) penetrated well, but took forever to cure. I ended up coating the piece with uncut epoxy smoothed on with a popcycle stick. It covered well and will provide the protection I need against hi-nitro model helocopter fuel. My intent was to smooth it up and paint it, but I decided it looked fine "raw".
                            This turned out to a rather interesting question and I appreciate all the input and links you all provided.
                            Larry R. Rogers
                            The Samurai Wood Butcher
                            http://splash54.multiply.com
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