Final(?) Advice on Patio Trolley Requested

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  • JR
    The Full Monte
    • Feb 2004
    • 5636
    • Eugene, OR
    • BT3000

    #1

    Final(?) Advice on Patio Trolley Requested

    My patio trolley project is reaching the fit and finish stage.
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    My question has to do with this little knot hole that somehow managed to survive the whole process. It appears sort of like a nail hole from the top of that rail into the side. There are no other noticeable blemishes, apart from those created by me. Can you recommend a way to fill this hole? I intend to have a clear poly finish, no stain.
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    TIA,
    JR
    JR
  • MilDoc

    #2
    Looks small to me. I'd mix some sawdust of the same wood with Titebond III and fill it in, sand, and finish.

    BTW, that's a great design! Did you use a plan? And, what wood / finish did you use?

    The wheels are great! Made from the same wood? I'M jealous!

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    • TheRic
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2004
      • 1912
      • West Central Ohio
      • bt3100

      #3
      I would leave it, it gives the cart character!!

      I'm no expert, I do know from experiance that some times things look better before you try to "fix" them. Atleast when I try to "fix them.
      Ric

      Plan for the worst, hope for the best!

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      • JR
        The Full Monte
        • Feb 2004
        • 5636
        • Eugene, OR
        • BT3000

        #4
        Hmm, that about covers the spectrum of my ideas so far - stuff it with sawdust or learn to like it.

        It's a Nahm plan, all mahogany, and not finished yet, hence the request for advice before the final bits are done.

        Thanks for the compliment on the wheels, MilDoc. I'm happy with them, but they were a TON of work.

        JR
        JR

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        • just4funsies
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 843
          • Florida.
          • BT3000

          #5
          If that knot is so small that you didn't notice it in time to use a different piece of wood or locate it in a hidden area, then it's not big enough to worry about. At least it's a natural character of the wood. If you try to do too much to cover it, you're probably going to wish you hadn't tried. There's a good chance that the repair will look less natural then the original defect. I'd leave it alone.
          ...eight, nine, TEN! Yep! Still got all my fingers!

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          • RayintheUK
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2003
            • 1792
            • Crowborough, East Sussex, United Kingdom.
            • Ryobi BT3000

            #6
            Originally posted by JR
            It's a Nahm plan, all mahogany, and not finished yet, hence the request for advice before the final bits are done.
            Hey, JR, if it's a Nahm plan, how come its taken you more than half an hour to build - that's how long it took when I watched him do it!

            Seriously - great-looking trolley. I'd leave the "defect" well alone too, that's what separates machine-made from hand-made.

            Ray.
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            • WayneJ
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2004
              • 785
              • Elmwood Park, New Jersey, USA.

              #7
              I'd leave it. just another thought, drill it through and dowel it. It don't realy look that bad tho.I've seen nahm use dutchman to repair defects. Sometimes they look worse than the defect. Nice lookin piece ,be proud of it.
              Wayne
              Wayne J

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              • bmyers
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2003
                • 1371
                • Fishkill, NY
                • bt 3100

                #8
                Tell you what I'll do. You can send me that one as a reject and make a new one for yourself without knots.. I know you'll feel better and I don't mind helping you out ole buddy...

                Seriously though, you could machine it out and replace it, matching the grain. You could machine it out and leave it out, like a routed cope cut or ogee along the inside of the top tray.

                Otherwise, I think it looks great and I wish I had one just like it.

                Nice work JR.

                Bill
                "Why are there Braille codes on drive-up ATM machines?"

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                • Popeye
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 1848
                  • Woodbine, Ga
                  • Grizzly 1023SL

                  #9
                  OK, I'm one of those guys who looks for knots to put into my pieces..... My favorite way to fill them is with 5 minute clear epoxy. Looks natural, seals the knot and will take any type top coat you use. Pat
                  Woodworking is therapy.....some of us need more therapy than others. <ZERO>

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                  • scmhogg
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1839
                    • Simi Valley, CA, USA.
                    • BT3000

                    #10
                    JR,

                    I'm inclined to agree with Pat. I have used epoxy to fill defects and secure loose knots. I have also added lamp black to the epoxy I used to fill worm holes, to accentuate them. I have also added very fine sawdust to the epoxy. This usually results in a darker color than the original. I have covered the epoxy with poly, shellac, and wipe-on, with good results.

                    Be sure to test the filler in a hole in a scrap of the same material.

                    Steve
                    I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong. Bertrand Russell

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                    • Tom Miller
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 2507
                      • Twin Cities, MN
                      • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

                      #11
                      JR,

                      I could have saved you the trouble on the wheels -- I've got an old BBQ ready for the dumpster. (Run, boys, he's gonna blow!)

                      Yours look fine, too.

                      I wouldn't touch the "wood grain feature". Seriously. In fact, I'd say it's rather nicely placed.

                      Regards,
                      Tom

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                      • JR
                        The Full Monte
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 5636
                        • Eugene, OR
                        • BT3000

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Popeye
                        OK, I'm one of those guys who looks for knots to put into my pieces..... My favorite way to fill them is with 5 minute clear epoxy. Looks natural, seals the knot and will take any type top coat you use. Pat
                        I'm inclined to try this. I know it's not much of a knot, but it really is bugging me. I'll surely take Steve's advice and experiment with scrap before commiting to the project piece.

                        Now, what about getting the surface even with the wood? Can I sand epoxy?

                        JR
                        JR

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                        • MilDoc

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JR
                          Now, what about getting the surface even with the wood? Can I sand epoxy?

                          JR
                          Yep. Carefully.

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                          • Scottydont
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 2359
                            • Edmonds, WA, USA.
                            • Delta Industrial Hybrid

                            #14
                            Great looking cart! On turning projects I use CA glue (superglue) and sawdust, hit it will a shot of accelerator and it works great. I have done the same on regular woodworking projects. You can sand withing minutes of filling the hole.
                            Scott
                            "The Laminate Flooring Benchtop Guy"

                            Edmonds WA

                            No coffee, no worky!

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                            • John Hunter
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 2034
                              • Lake Station, IN, USA.
                              • BT3000 & BT3100

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Scottydont
                              Great looking cart! On turning projects I use CA glue (superglue) and sawdust, hit it will a shot of accelerator and it works great. I have done the same on regular woodworking projects. You can sand withing minutes of filling the hole.
                              Just what I was going to post. Works great!
                              John Hunter

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