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  • Mahogany_Rush
    Forum Newbie
    • Apr 2005
    • 13
    • Ridgecrest, CA, USA.

    #1

    square wood into a round hole

    I need to take a 3 inch square board and cut it to where I don't need to sand so much to make it round. I don't have a lathe and can't convince SWMBO that this is only the beginning and I really need a lathe. I can only think of 4 cuts at 45 deg. Is there another cut I could make to shave even more sanding off. I could even use my jointer if you have a better idea than the BT3K. I think I have over thought this one out and now nothing makes sense. Thanks
    Jim
  • LCHIEN
    Super Moderator
    • Dec 2002
    • 22052
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #2
    Originally posted by Mahogany_Rush
    I need to take a 3 inch square board and cut it to where I don't need to sand so much to make it round. I don't have a lathe and can't convince SWMBO that this is only the beginning and I really need a lathe. I can only think of 4 cuts at 45 deg. Is there another cut I could make to shave even more sanding off. I could even use my jointer if you have a better idea than the BT3K. I think I have over thought this one out and now nothing makes sense. Thanks
    Jim
    everything has tolerances. You don't say how close you want to get it to round, without using a lathe. How close do you want it or need it to be?

    If you rip off four 45° corners to make it an octagon, the remaining sides will probably be flat enouh to bevel it one more time (tilt the blade 22.5&#176 and do it on the original 8 sides so that one side rests against the table and the other side rests against the rip fence (and the blade tilted away from the fence). I'd mark the original 8 sides (number them 1-8) because by the time I reached the 7th or 8th side to rip the board will now have 15 sides to choose from.

    With 16 sides it will be pretty close to being round, again this depends upon your requirements.

    When you bevel rip the first time to make it an octagon, you will need to set the right rip width to make it a perfect octagon. Later, when you make the next 8 rips to make a hexadecigon (16 sides) you'll need to set the proper width again. Do you know how to do this or did you forget your high school trigonometry? If you don't do this right then you will end up with a square board that looks like you just beveled the corners.
    Last edited by LCHIEN; 04-13-2006, 06:54 PM.
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
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    • venkatbo
      Established Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 243
      • Cupertino, CA, USA.

      #3
      If you have a router, you may be able to do circular cuts using a jig. Cut deeper and deeper each traversal..

      Also, I've seen some vendor provide a sanding sheet mounted as a blade in a TS, then you basically have a circular sander... After you get it close to a circle as Loring suggests, you can sand off the protrusions - can draw an internal reference circle first, with a pencil.

      Better yet, you may be ble to convince zMrs to get you 'more tools' just so you can 'preserve' your digits.... using a TS on a 3" square is too close for comfort, I think

      /venkat

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      • DaveW
        Established Member
        • Jul 2004
        • 415
        • So Cal.

        #4
        Originally posted by venkatbo
        If you have a router, you may be able to do circular cuts using a jig. Cut deeper and deeper each traversal..
        Another alternative is to make the rough cut using a jig saw (as close to the line as possible, and one pass with the router/jig.

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        • Mahogany_Rush
          Forum Newbie
          • Apr 2005
          • 13
          • Ridgecrest, CA, USA.

          #5
          Thanks everyone, I did briefly think about 45 deg and then 22.5 deg cuts but like I said I over thought it. It is going to be the top rail to a sleigh bed for my daughter and perfectly round is not needed. I think I'll TS 45's then 22.5's and make a jig to roll it across the router. That was something I never thought of but have seen some reference to it on this site for pen turning. You guys are the best. I just wish I could get a new tool out of this some how. LOL. Thanks again
          Jim

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          • jhart
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2004
            • 1715
            • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
            • BT3100

            #6
            You might think about using a 3" or 3 1/4" hole saw to cut the basic shape. Not too expensive if you have to buy it
            Joe
            "All things are difficult before they are easy"

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            • Tom Miller
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2003
              • 2507
              • Twin Cities, MN
              • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

              #7
              Originally posted by Mahogany_Rush
              I don't have a lathe and can't convince SWMBO that this is only the beginning and I really need a lathe.
              You definitely do not need a lathe to do this.





              A nice new bandsaw would do fine.

              Regards,
              Tom

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              • guycox
                Established Member
                • Dec 2003
                • 360
                • Romulak, VA, USA.

                #8
                If this were larger you "could" use the table saw

                Originally posted by Mahogany_Rush
                I need to take a 3 inch square board and cut it to where I don't need to sand so much to make it round. I don't have a lathe and can't convince SWMBO that this is only the beginning and I really need a lathe. I can only think of 4 cuts at 45 deg. Is there another cut I could make to shave even more sanding off. I could even use my jointer if you have a better idea than the BT3K. I think I have over thought this one out and now nothing makes sense. Thanks
                Jim
                My table saw book shows a jig for actually making a circle on a table saw.. I don't think I'd try it on a 3" diameter circle.

                It's too small for a router.

                Drum sander on a drill press and pivot pin might be the best bet.. A wolfcraft portable drill holder would work.
                Guy Cox

                Life isn\'t like a box of chocolates...it\'s more like a jar of jalapenos.
                What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow.

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                • LCHIEN
                  Super Moderator
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 22052
                  • Katy, TX, USA.
                  • BT3000 vintage 1999

                  #9
                  Originally posted by guycox
                  My table saw book shows a jig for actually making a circle on a table saw.. I don't think I'd try it on a 3" diameter circle.

                  It's too small for a router.

                  Drum sander on a drill press and pivot pin might be the best bet.. A wolfcraft portable drill holder would work.
                  Guy, he's not making a "disk", he's making a "pole".
                  Loring in Katy, TX USA
                  If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                  BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                  • Mahogany_Rush
                    Forum Newbie
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 13
                    • Ridgecrest, CA, USA.

                    #10
                    I cut the board at 45 deg and then again with 22.5 deg. It worked great. and actually I didn't sand it down as round as I could. The shape and feel of the rail looked great with some of the flat spots left in. Very subtle but it added an old world or primitive look to it that is really cool. It looks perfectly round till you get really close or touch it. And the grain of the maple is fantastic on that piece. The small flat spots add some different patterns that I think I would have lost if ot had been perfectly round. Thanks for all the help.
                    Jim

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