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  • BCinPhx
    Forum Newbie
    • Jun 2010
    • 12

    #1

    WTB - Pin Guide needed

    I don't really know the proper name for the piece but, it's the pin with screw that fits into the hole of the SMT in order for me to make circle cuts. It's about 3/8 inch in diameter and maybe an inch tall with screw and washer. In my moves, it has become 'misplaced'. Anybody know the correct terminology? Where can I get a couple?
    Thanks,
    Bill
  • LCHIEN
    Super Moderator
    • Dec 2002
    • 21981
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #2
    never heard of such a beast.
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
    BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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    • eezlock
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2006
      • 997
      • Charlotte,N.C.
      • BT3100

      #3
      pin guide needed?

      I'm with Loring on this one...never heard of this beast. It sounds like some type of pivot pin for the rip fence to swivel on when making angle cuts with the saw.
      If this isn't it...well, I'm still lost as well!

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      • BCinPhx
        Forum Newbie
        • Jun 2010
        • 12

        #4
        Naw, It exists !

        I've used it many times and it fits into the right or left pivot hole on the SMT (set the desired distance from the blade) and you slide the SMT back and forth taking small bites out of the wood piece 'till you get it round and then you can spin the piece against the leading edge of the blade untill it's really round. Albeit with a small screwhole thru the center.

        If you can find the pin...........
        Try it, just don't take too big a bite b4 you turn it a little for the next bite. Thin kerf blade might flex a little if you try and force the issue. I use a Freud Diablo 60 tooth 1/8 inch for wood up to 3/4 inch thick....haven't tried anything thicker.
        Bill

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        • cwsmith
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 2806
          • NY Southern Tier, USA.
          • BT3100-1

          #5
          Are you talking about that black plastic locator pin that is used as a pivot point underneath the SMT's crosscut fence and locates the fence into one of two different holes in the SMT? Or do you mean the threaded bolt which is used for locating and tightening of the SMT crosscut fence in position against the SMT? (The latter's hex head fits into the SMT slot and comes up through the fence holder block and has a knob on top of it.)

          Either way, you described purpose seems a bit unorthodox to me. I can't get my head wrapped around using the SMT fence as a method to rounding a piece of stock... seems like a serious accident just waiting to happen.

          Sorry, if I am misinterpretting your description,

          CWS
          Think it Through Before You Do!

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          • Cochese
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 1988

            #6
            That sounds like something someone would video and ask to hold their beer.
            I have a little blog about my shop

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            • Black wallnut
              cycling to health
              • Jan 2003
              • 4715
              • Ellensburg, Wa, USA.
              • BT3k 1999

              #7
              I seem to recall something of the sorts. Was it in the Ryobi video as an accessory? Cochese sounds like you have never heard of using a fixed blade to make a round object. You may also be surprised to know that you can use a table saw to make cove moldings. Both can be done safely.
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              • BCinPhx
                Forum Newbie
                • Jun 2010
                • 12

                #8
                Guys,
                It's a metal pin (cylindrical with a 2 or 3 mm diameter bolt that fits into one end of the cylinder that has been tapped with threads. It drops right in to the left or right positioning pin hole in the SMT. And yes, you can make circles and cove mouldings on the saw and if you pay attention, it's safe.
                Bill

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                • Stytooner
                  Roll Tide RIP Lee
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 4301
                  • Robertsdale, AL, USA.
                  • BT3100

                  #9
                  Well, I do know how to do it. Have done it on a tablesaw before as well, but with a jig.

                  I actually designed a jig like this for a large bandsaw in a furniture plant. One jig would cut radius corners on rectangular tables. The other would cut perfectly round tables.

                  I am not aware that the Ryobi's offered anything like it as an accessory.
                  I am certain that I never had one.

                  That said, it would seem like a typical hardware item.

                  Something like these.
                  http://www.mcmaster.com/#threaded-dowel-pins/=89ufn3

                  Lee

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                  • BCinPhx
                    Forum Newbie
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 12

                    #10
                    Thanks Skytooner....very close to what I had at your posted link. And yes, mine came with the purchase of the saw. You remove the miter bar and drop the pin into either left or right positioning hole..helps to already have it mounted to your stock. Being out here in the 'woods' we don't have many places to get that kind of hardware. I will take measurements and order from them. I now have a starting point for purchase and can get started on a few Christmas presents. Maybe now some members of this board will try cutting circles, wheels, etc.
                    Bill
                    Last edited by BCinPhx; 08-05-2010, 03:59 PM.

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                    • LCHIEN
                      Super Moderator
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 21981
                      • Katy, TX, USA.
                      • BT3000 vintage 1999

                      #11
                      I've seen/tried that technique for making circles on the BT3s.
                      But There's no such Ryobi-provided part for doing that.

                      The way I would do it would be to use the slot in the SMT (minus the miter fence),
                      put a 5/16 hex head bolt from the bottom, a 1/2" OD x 5/16" spacer over the bolt, and the blank over the the spacer. A 5/16 knob or nut to hold down the spare and bolt, with the bolt adjacent to the leading edge of the blade.
                      The you could space the SMT away from the blade the desired distance (= the radius).
                      I think when I did this, I started with a square piece a small bit bigger than the diameter, and then cut off four corners at 45° to get close to the circle. If you piece is not close to a circle when you start the cutoffs will jam around the blade and riving knife if you use one..
                      Loring in Katy, TX USA
                      If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                      BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                      • Cochese
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 1988

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Black wallnut
                        I seem to recall something of the sorts. Was it in the Ryobi video as an accessory? Cochese sounds like you have never heard of using a fixed blade to make a round object. You may also be surprised to know that you can use a table saw to make cove moldings. Both can be done safely.
                        I'm fully aware of making cove moldings, and have seen it done and very safely.

                        I'm also aware that you can do something like the OP suggested, and neither surprises me. It's a matter of wanting to do such a thing.
                        I have a little blog about my shop

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                        • Black wallnut
                          cycling to health
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 4715
                          • Ellensburg, Wa, USA.
                          • BT3k 1999

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LCHIEN
                          I've seen/tried that technique for making circles on the BT3s.
                          But There's no such Ryobi-provided part for doing that.

                          The way I would do it would be to use the slot in the SMT (minus the miter fence),
                          put a 5/16 hex head bolt from the bottom, a 1/2" OD x 5/16" spacer over the bolt, and the blank over the the spacer. A 5/16 knob or nut to hold down the spare and bolt, with the bolt adjacent to the leading edge of the blade.
                          The you could space the SMT away from the blade the desired distance (= the radius).
                          I think when I did this, I started with a square piece a small bit bigger than the diameter, and then cut off four corners at 45° to get close to the circle. If you piece is not close to a circle when you start the cutoffs will jam around the blade and riving knife if you use one..
                          Loring you may want to check this link..... it appears that it was included at some point in the router and jig saw mounting kit. I'll bet I have one somewhere in my shop.
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                          • Stytooner
                            Roll Tide RIP Lee
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 4301
                            • Robertsdale, AL, USA.
                            • BT3100

                            #14
                            That explains why I never saw it. I never had the router kit.
                            Lee

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                            • Lonnie in Orlando
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2003
                              • 649
                              • Orlando, FL, USA.
                              • BT3000

                              #15
                              Mark,

                              You're right. Here is a link to the complete manual ...
                              http://dl.owneriq.net/d/dea7b002-fbb...27b602614f.pdf

                              See pp 10-11

                              - Lonnie
                              OLD STUFF ... houses, furniture, cars, wine ... I love it all

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