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  • chopnhack
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    • Oct 2006
    • 3779
    • Florida
    • Ryobi BT3100

    #31
    Originally posted by Tom Slick
    In what garage or small shop application would any shop equipment be hardwired? Maybe an overhead dust collector? Every tool is going to have a cord and plug, even the 240v stuff.

    Dimming lights can also indicate a loose (floating) neutral
    Friend of mine hardwired a DOT sign making machine in his garage that he picked up at an auction... its not as crazy as it sounds.
    I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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    • LCHIEN
      Super Moderator
      • Dec 2002
      • 21731
      • Katy, TX, USA.
      • BT3000 vintage 1999

      #32
      hmmm, my oven/microwave, stove and dishwasher are all hardwired....
      Loring in Katy, TX USA
      If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
      BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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      • cabinetman
        Gone but not Forgotten RIP
        • Jun 2006
        • 15216
        • So. Florida
        • Delta

        #33
        Originally posted by chopnhack
        That's cool, so long as you stay safe while working. But seriously, how did you get your t.s. so close to your breaker box
        That post was edited. Now it's up to 20'.

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        • cabinetman
          Gone but not Forgotten RIP
          • Jun 2006
          • 15216
          • So. Florida
          • Delta

          #34
          Originally posted by Tom Slick
          In what garage or small shop application would any shop equipment be hardwired? Maybe an overhead dust collector? Every tool is going to have a cord and plug, even the 240v stuff.
          I rarely see hardwired machinery/tools in professional shops, and for home type shops/garages, plug in. Some machinery doesn't come with a cord and plug, as well as some residential appliances, like ranges and microwaves, which are designed for a built in installation. These are usually fitted with a cord and plug.

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          Last edited by cabinetman; 12-17-2012, 03:16 AM.

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          • woodturner
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 2049
            • Western Pennsylvania
            • General, Sears 21829, BT3100

            #35
            Originally posted by Tom Slick
            In what garage or small shop application would any shop equipment be hardwired? Maybe an overhead dust collector? Every tool is going to have a cord and plug, even the 240v stuff.
            Woodworking tools targeted for the construction trade, DIYers, etc. usually come with cords and plugs, but "industrial" tools such as cabinet saws often don't come with a cord. It's common practice (and required in some areas) to hardwire these tools in commercial shops. However, I prefer to wire a plug on them for home and small shop use, because the plug can serve as the required disconnect means, avoiding the need for a switchbox.

            Dimming lights can also indicate a loose (floating) neutral
            Definitely, dimming lights can have multiple causes. In my case, though, I had recently replaced my service entrance, so I knew it was OK, but it's always good practice to check for other possible causes.
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            Electrical Engineer by day, Woodworker by night

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            • toolguy1000
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              • Mar 2009
              • 1142
              • westchester cnty, ny

              #36
              just to kind of tie up the OP's original question, is there anything that would prevent running 6 gauge for a 60 amp sub panel instead of just one additional 20A 220 circuit? that would provide for the A/C 20 amp 220v line and provide for a 20 amp 220v circuit for the planned TS while making additional shop circuits simpler and easier.
              there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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              • woodturner
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                • Jun 2008
                • 2049
                • Western Pennsylvania
                • General, Sears 21829, BT3100

                #37
                Originally posted by toolguy1000
                just to kind of tie up the OP's original question, is there anything that would prevent running 6 gauge for a 60 amp sub panel instead of just one additional 20A 220 circuit?
                Nothing wrong with that, and it's a good option to consider. However, the cost could be much higher, given the cost of the panel, ground rods, and larger cable.
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                Electrical Engineer by day, Woodworker by night

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                • chopnhack
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                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3779
                  • Florida
                  • Ryobi BT3100

                  #38
                  Originally posted by woodturner
                  Nothing wrong with that, and it's a good option to consider. However, the cost could be much higher, given the cost of the panel, ground rods, and larger cable.
                  Not to mention probably a different permitting process than a simple c/o of AC. As for ground rods, they are dirt cheap, but would only be needed if OP's garage was a separate structure.
                  I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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