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  • wareagle
    Forum Newbie
    • Mar 2006
    • 66

    #1

    Drywall question

    Hey guys,

    I repaired a piece of drywall in my kitchen ceiling today and on one of the long edges (approx. 45"), there is a difference of maybe 1/8" between the existing drywall and the piece I installed. It isn't a gap, but rather a difference in height, if this makes sense.

    So, I wanted to see if anybody had any suggestions for leveling this out so that it's smooth? My plan was to simply add joint compound, then feather it out as best as I can, but I'm open to suggestions.

    Thanks for your help,

    David
  • Tom Slick
    Veteran Member
    • May 2005
    • 2913
    • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
    • sears BT3 clone

    #2
    I've shimmed the framing to make it level but you're beyond that now. I'd feather it out really far and you may not notice, especially with a heavy texture.
    Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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    • cgallery
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2004
      • 4503
      • Milwaukee, WI
      • BT3K

      #3
      I'd probably remove the new piece of drywall and add some shims before reinstalling it. You could just use a lot of drywall mud. But the you run the risk of cracks down the road.

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      • Uncle Cracker
        The Full Monte
        • May 2007
        • 7091
        • Sunshine State
        • BT3000

        #4
        I've used mesh-type drywall tape, and feathered way back on a couple like that in the past. There was also popcorn texture involved, which made the repairs almost invisible.

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        • cabinetman
          Gone but not Forgotten RIP
          • Jun 2006
          • 15216
          • So. Florida
          • Delta

          #5
          I would use several applications of drywall mud feathered back in very thin layers allowing each to completely dry. The repair will be less likely to crack and shrink.
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          • LCHIEN
            Super Moderator
            • Dec 2002
            • 21971
            • Katy, TX, USA.
            • BT3000 vintage 1999

            #6
            if its much more than a few inches square, i think that any attempt to feather it out will result in an sunken area that will show if the light hits it right, like a crater on the moon. Filling it with mud might help but all the mud will crack and become a liability. I think the only way to fix it right is, as was suggested, take it off and shim it up to the same height from behind.
            Loring in Katy, TX USA
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            • os1kne
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2003
              • 901
              • Atlanta, GA
              • BT3100

              #7
              If you go with shimming the studs, paint stirrers will probably work well. Or, just buy thicker drywall.
              Bill

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              • tseavoy
                Established Member
                • May 2009
                • 200
                • Nordland, Marrowstone Island, Washington
                • Older 9 inch Rockwell Delta (1960?)

                #8
                I've use spackling paste for this type of repair -- the vinyl kind. It has loss propensity to crack than regular drywall mud. The mesh type tape is better for this also.
                It doesn't cost a lot to try the long feather approach before ripping out drywall and starting over.

                Tom on Marrowstone

                PATIENCE, n. A minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue.
                Ambrose Bierce

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                • RAFlorida
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 1179
                  • Green Swamp in Central Florida. Gator property!
                  • Ryobi BT3000

                  #9
                  As others have noted,

                  I've used the mesh tape with vinyl spackling with good results. The key is starting with a thin layer and feathering out. If you go too thick, it will not dry uniformly and cracks will appear even using the vinyl spackling. Hope all the post help you out.

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                  • Tom Slick
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2005
                    • 2913
                    • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
                    • sears BT3 clone

                    #10
                    Use slow setting drywall mud, the stuff you have to mix with water. it is less prone to cracking.
                    Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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                    • crokett
                      The Full Monte
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 10627
                      • Mebane, NC, USA.
                      • Ryobi BT3000

                      #11
                      Is the new stuff lower or higher than the old? If it is lower, remove the repaired piece and shim to get it to height. This is will make the mudding a lot easier. If it is higher, then on the original work a few inches back from the edge build up a mound of mud and let that dry. This forms a valley of sorts between the raised edge of the new and the mound. Then put the tape in the valley and tape it. Don't try to tape and feather all at once. I've been in this situation before and these were the quickest fixes, as per a guy I worked with who moonlighted for his dad's drywall business.
                      David

                      The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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                      • eccentrictinkerer
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 669
                        • Minneapolis, MN
                        • BT-3000, 21829

                        #12
                        For jobs like this I use '20 minute mud' for the bedding coat (remember to soak the tape in warmwater, makes all the difference in the world for adhesion).

                        Second coat of '20 minute' feathered out 8 to 10 inches, sand, then a third coat of regular mud feathered out 12 to 15 inches.

                        This sounds like a lot of work, but if you're careful, you can be done very quickly. I do this on a regular basis and you can expect a perfect job.

                        Use a trouble light placed close to the wall to see the high and low spots.

                        Trying the the job in 1 or 2 coats usually leads to a poor job, IMHO.

                        (With practice you can use '5 minute' mud and be done in an hour.)
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                        of the warning labels on tools can be traced back to things I've done...

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                        • chopnhack
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 3779
                          • Florida
                          • Ryobi BT3100

                          #13
                          eccentrictinkerer beat me to it. +1 on "hot" mud, makes repairs go a lot quicker, sometimes quicker than you are!
                          I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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                          • iceman61
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 699
                            • West TN
                            • Bosch 4100-09

                            #14
                            Word of warning: if you don't know what you are doing, better not get the quick set stuff.

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                            • eccentrictinkerer
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 669
                              • Minneapolis, MN
                              • BT-3000, 21829

                              #15
                              Originally posted by iceman61
                              word of warning: If you don't know what you are doing, better not get the quick set stuff. :d
                              +1

                              damhikt!
                              You might think I haven't contributed much to the world, but a large number
                              of the warning labels on tools can be traced back to things I've done...

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