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  • cabinetman
    Gone but not Forgotten RIP
    • Jun 2006
    • 15216
    • So. Florida
    • Delta

    #1

    Vacuuming Oil Out Of Small Engines

    I'm fed up with the oil drain plug on small engines that are above, next to or behind some obstruction allowing oil to go everywhere, when draining. I caught this ad in Lowes this morning for a vacuum system to drain oil from lawnmowers, etc. Anyone have experience with one of these, or comments?
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  • jhart
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2004
    • 1715
    • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
    • BT3100

    #2
    I got one of those for a Christmas present and keep planning on using it for the snowblower and lawnmower, but haven't gotten around to it yet. Too many other things to do this summer.

    The idea looks like a good one though. Hopefully, I'll use it before it get too cold here in Minnesota!!!!
    Joe
    "All things are difficult before they are easy"

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    • Pappy
      The Full Monte
      • Dec 2002
      • 10481
      • San Marcos, TX, USA.
      • BT3000 (x2)

      #3
      Interesting idea if it works as claimed. It still would be difficult to know if you got all the oil out. Maybe block one side of the machine so the area below the dipstick tube was at the lowest point.

      Without a bottom drain plug there is always some old oil/sludge below the level of the oil drain. Black and Decker voided the warranty on an engine I had with a broken rod because of this.
      Don, aka Pappy,

      Wise men talk because they have something to say,
      Fools because they have to say something.
      Plato

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      • Uncle Cracker
        The Full Monte
        • May 2007
        • 7091
        • Sunshine State
        • BT3000

        #4
        Could be worth a try, if you can truly get the hose completely down into the oil sump, and haven't let the oil get too "sludgy"...

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        • cgallery
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2004
          • 4503
          • Milwaukee, WI
          • BT3K

          #5
          Originally posted by Pappy
          Black and Decker voided the warranty on an engine I had with a broken rod because of this.
          Are you saying B&D voided the warranty because you couldn't get all the old oil out through the manufacturer designed oil drain?

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          • Pappy
            The Full Monte
            • Dec 2002
            • 10481
            • San Marcos, TX, USA.
            • BT3000 (x2)

            #6
            Originally posted by Uncle Cracker
            Could be worth a try, if you can truly get the hose completely down into the oil sump, and haven't let the oil get too "sludgy"...
            The first couple of oil changes on an older machine you could put a quart of kerosene or diesel in after vacuuming the oil, slosh it around, and revacuum to clear the sludge from the sump.
            Don, aka Pappy,

            Wise men talk because they have something to say,
            Fools because they have to say something.
            Plato

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            • cork58
              Established Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 365
              • Wasilla, AK, USA.
              • BT3000

              #7
              I have made drains of my own in the past. Remove the drain plug and insert a pipe nipple of the correct size and route to the edge of the frame and install a pipe cap. Now the oil will be in a better spot and will drain completely. Is it on the generator?
              Cork,

              Dare to dream and dare to fail.

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              • eccentrictinkerer
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 669
                • Minneapolis, MN
                • BT-3000, 21829

                #8
                Originally posted by Pappy
                The first couple of oil changes on an older machine you could put a quart of kerosene or diesel in after vacuuming the oil, slosh it around, and revacuum to clear the sludge from the sump.
                Kerosene, oil, vacuum?

                Sounds like the 4th of July when we stood an old vacuum cleaner in an oil pan partly filled with gasoline, then plugged it into 240 V.

                If you choose to do this, remember to use a really long extension cord. DAMHIKT
                You might think I haven't contributed much to the world, but a large number
                of the warning labels on tools can be traced back to things I've done...

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                • Tom Slick
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2005
                  • 2913
                  • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
                  • sears BT3 clone

                  #9
                  Mercedes Benz has a few engines that the factory prescribed oil change method is to suck the oil out. It is also fairly common on boat engines. I wouldn't hesitate to use a vacuum on a small engine.

                  pappy, you had a black and decker engine? I've never seen one, sounds interesting.
                  Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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                  • cabinetman
                    Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 15216
                    • So. Florida
                    • Delta

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tom Slick

                    pappy, you had a black and decker engine? I've never seen one, sounds interesting.

                    Are pull starts considered "corded"?
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                    • LCHIEN
                      Super Moderator
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 21992
                      • Katy, TX, USA.
                      • BT3000 vintage 1999

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Pappy
                      The first couple of oil changes on an older machine you could put a quart of kerosene or diesel in after vacuuming the oil, slosh it around, and revacuum to clear the sludge from the sump.

                      How do you get to the point of FIRST oil change on an OLDER machine...

                      oh, I get it, you never change oil on a younger machine...
                      Loring in Katy, TX USA
                      If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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                      • Mr__Bill
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 2096
                        • Tacoma, WA
                        • BT3000

                        #12
                        My first thought on reading the Title/subject was... "This is a case where you defiantly want to borrow your neighbors shop vac."

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                        • gearbuilder
                          Forum Newbie
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 22
                          • N.W. Indiana
                          • Delta

                          #13
                          This one works, no electricity.

                          I have this vacuum and it works great for changing the oil on small engines.

                          http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000JFN9WW



                          Jamie

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                          • WayneJ
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 785
                            • Elmwood Park, New Jersey, USA.

                            #14
                            Cab,
                            Harbor freight sell a 2 1/2 gal vacuum tank for changing oil. Try 45403-3vga IIRW its about $ 25, ita a new item in the store
                            Wayne
                            Wayne J

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                            • Pappy
                              The Full Monte
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 10481
                              • San Marcos, TX, USA.
                              • BT3000 (x2)

                              #15
                              Massive brian fart this morning...

                              Make that Briggs and Stratton. CG, that is exactly what they did. 12 1/2 HP on a tractor. No bottom plug; only way to drain the sump completely would be to turn the tractor on its side or pull the engine. Needless to say, I don't by Briggs powered equuipment.

                              Loring, first couple of changes using a vacuum system.

                              We are talking air or manual vacuum pumps here, guys. I would try this with an electric vac...unless I got someone here to hold my beer!
                              Don, aka Pappy,

                              Wise men talk because they have something to say,
                              Fools because they have to say something.
                              Plato

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