Is this a roughing gouge?

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  • phrog
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 1796
    • Chattanooga, TN, USA.

    #1

    Is this a roughing gouge?

    I have gotten a new lathe for Christmas and bought a few "old" turning tools. However, I'm not even sure what I have. The tool pictured is 26mm across. It is about 16 inches in overall length and the blade is about 6 inches. The second photo is a side view where you can see the bevel. Is this a roughing gouge? If not, then what is the difference and can this be used for roughing out until I get such an animal?
    Thanks.
    Richard
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    Richard
  • dbhost
    Slow and steady
    • Apr 2008
    • 9472
    • League City, Texas
    • Ryobi BT3100

    #2
    That looks like a Versa Chisel...

    Hard to say from that angle...
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    • gerti
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2003
      • 2233
      • Minnetonka, MN, USA.
      • BT3100 "Frankensaw"

      #3
      Look like a spindle gouge of sorts to me. Unless you do a lot of spindle work, you don't really need a roughing gouge (spindle-like work is all roughing gouges are safe to use on).

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      • Uncle Cracker
        The Full Monte
        • May 2007
        • 7091
        • Sunshine State
        • BT3000

        #4
        It's not really a roughing gouge. Hard to tell if it's hollowed out, but I think it is... It's got more of a fingernail profile than a roughing gouge, and is not nearly as massive. I think most would ID it as a bowl gouge. Below is a typical roughing gouge.

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        • Rich P
          Established Member
          • Apr 2003
          • 390
          • Foresthill, CA, USA.
          • Powermatic 66 (1966 vintage)

          #5
          IHMO, it's is not a bowl gouge, which have a very pronounced "V" shape to the flute. A roughing gouge is simply a large and heavy spindle gouge. Your gouge is for turning between centers, not for face plate work.
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          • phrog
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2005
            • 1796
            • Chattanooga, TN, USA.

            #6
            Thanks to those who answered this post. I have added a couple photos if anyone else would like to comment. It seems the original photo(s) were not descriptive enough. Thanks.
            Richard
            Richard

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            • RayintheUK
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2003
              • 1792
              • Crowborough, East Sussex, United Kingdom.
              • Ryobi BT3000

              #7
              Roughing gouges are usually ground straight across, with a 45 degree bevel. I said it was more like a bowl gouge until I saw the two additional pics - now I'd say it's some sort of modified roughing gouge, but I can't imagine why the conventional grind has been modified in that way.

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              • Uncle Cracker
                The Full Monte
                • May 2007
                • 7091
                • Sunshine State
                • BT3000

                #8
                Originally posted by RayintheUK
                now I'd say it's some sort of modified roughing gouge, but I can't imagine why the conventional grind has been modified in that way.
                Probably so it can be used for face work... A conventional grind would dig in at the outside edges.

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                • Hoakie
                  Established Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 382
                  • Iowa
                  • Craftsman 21829

                  #9
                  I have a couple that look like that that came in the HF Windsor Set (1" and 1/2") . Not really sure exactly when to use them but I have used them success for rough shaping after the piece has been rounded on spindle work.
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                  • BrazosJake
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 1148
                    • Benbrook, TX.
                    • Emerson-built Craftsman

                    #10
                    The bevel looks too long for a roughing gouge, IMO.

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                    • phrog
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 1796
                      • Chattanooga, TN, USA.

                      #11
                      I don't think this has been modified. It was sold to me as "New, old stock, never used." It is of German manufacture. The original owner had intended to start a mail order business but passed before doing so. The daughter had no clue about any of the tools that she inherited except they were bought for resell. Therefore, I don't think that it was modified. ("Think" being the critical word.) I'm sorry that I didn't specify that to begin with. Thanks to all who have expressed an opinion.
                      Richard
                      Richard

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                      • Uncle Cracker
                        The Full Monte
                        • May 2007
                        • 7091
                        • Sunshine State
                        • BT3000

                        #12
                        I don't think anybody meant "modified" in the sense that somebody re-ground the tool to other than its original profile (although that does happen), but only that the "modification" was a departure from standard design

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                        • phrog
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 1796
                          • Chattanooga, TN, USA.

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Uncle Cracker
                          I don't think anybody meant "modified" in the sense that somebody re-ground the tool to other than its original profile (although that does happen), but only that the "modification" was a departure from standard design
                          As the kids say, "My bad." Reading my original post, I could understand how anyone could have assumed this tool to be used. This is what I thought was being discussed with "modified." I wanted to clear this up. Thanks again to all who expressed an opinion and I apologize for not being more descriptive and posting more photos in my original post.
                          Richard
                          Richard

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                          • Uncle Cracker
                            The Full Monte
                            • May 2007
                            • 7091
                            • Sunshine State
                            • BT3000

                            #14
                            No problem... Fact is, turning tools are often manufactured in a somewhat custom fashion, and bear only superficial resemblance to classic tools. To see what I mean, just Google "lacer skew" or "skewchi gouge"...

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                            • BrazosJake
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 1148
                              • Benbrook, TX.
                              • Emerson-built Craftsman

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Uncle Cracker
                              ...just Google "lacer skew" or "skewchi gouge"...
                              UC,

                              Those look like either designer labels, or the way I speak to my grandbaby.

                              Is there a "Gucci skew"??

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