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  • ironhat
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2004
    • 2553
    • Chambersburg, PA (South-central).
    • Ridgid 3650 (can I still play here?)

    #16
    Originally posted by SARGE..g-47
    A day late and a dollar short.. my story. I use the scary sharp as of two years ago. <snip>

    Have you found an abrasives vendor who handles all of the necessary grits, Sarge? Who do you use?

    I do have a work station.. tempered glass plate and keep adhesive paper (not necessarily cheap when you need at least 5 grits) and the old style LV Mark I is suppose? Once you get it down to a science.. much quicker and less messy than water stones by far.
    Have you ever tried a spray adhesive on plain papers?
    Last edited by ironhat; 06-13-2008, 06:44 PM.
    Blessings,
    Chiz

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    • SARGE..g-47

      #17
      Originally posted by ironhat
      Have you ever tried a spray adhesive on plain papers?
      Sorry Chiz... I almost missed this as I ripped around 600 linear feet yesterday and jointed it today.. I get pretty busy and don't always have time to check out the forum. I used to get messages on e-mail in a thread I had subscribed too... but for whatever reason I don't anymore?

      I get my paper from Klingspors and they have about all grits up to 1200. And yes... on the next go around I am going to go to paper with spray adhesive. But... the self-adhesive rolls I use come in about 30' and once you get backs flattened... it doesn't take much to do my two sets of chisels with separate skews and about 5 hand plane irons.

      I do use a wet-dry 2000 with adhesive now.. but that is as high as I feel I need to go. Sharp is sharp and I won't spend and hour extra of time I really don't have to give a brilliant edge that will last about 2 minutes more in actual use. I do strop often in the middle of a project with a simple leather strop and green rouge.

      Good luck...

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      • LinuxRandal
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        • Feb 2005
        • 4890
        • Independence, MO, USA.
        • bt3100

        #18
        Originally posted by Uncle Cracker
        I have a Tormek now (because I fell into a great deal on a used one) but used to use a Veritas jig and wet sand on a granite slab. Also have used the jig with some good quality water stones. Took a little work and a little patience, but usually got excellent results. Stropping with jewelers rouge is a nice finishing touch. Curved edge tools were still understandably a PITA, though.
        I have and have been using waterstones and the Mark II. My father has been using the scary sharp method (plane blades and chisels for both of us), however, between his scissors (leather work), me with my pocket knives, yard tools, etc.... I have been watching CL on the Tormek. Locally they seem to be in the $250 range when I see them. Is this a decent range, or what is a bargain on these?

        Originally posted by JR
        I notice in a flier I got at the store today that the HF 35098 slow-speed wet/dry grinder is on sale for $44. Does anyone have this tool? How well does it work?
        I believe Cabinetman did a review of that recently, after his broke. Where it changes angle, is all plastic. So it isn't real sturdy.
        She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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        • drumpriest
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          • Feb 2004
          • 3338
          • Pittsburgh, Pa, USA.
          • Powermatic PM 2000

          #19
          I use the Jet sharpener, some diamond stones, and some water stones (slip and flat). I have also used scary sharp, and it works well. They all work.

          Hollow grinding chisels really makes it easy to touch them up in the middle of a project. I've only recently been doing that since getting the Jet, and it's MUCH easier to quickly get a sharp edge.
          Keith Z. Leonard
          Go Steelers!

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          • kevinsa
            Forum Newbie
            • Mar 2008
            • 11

            #20
            For a few chisels I find this and a Japanese wet stone works well. It takes a little more elbow grease though.

            http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=2417

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            • herb fellows
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              • Apr 2007
              • 1867
              • New York City
              • bt3100

              #21
              Originally posted by Anna
              Yes, I've forgotten about that. I never even thought about it because there's no real guide with respect to the angle and I ended up messing my bevel when I tried it with my big plane iron (before I dug out my MKII again). Maybe with some practice, it'll work out fine. I just like the reproducibility inherent in the MKII and the WS' bevel guide.
              Anna, good news. I recently had a conversation with Worksharp, and they definitely will come out with an addition for up to 3" this fall. Presumably extra cost, but as long as it's reasonable. They seem to be a stand up outfit, very responsive to customer needs, I was very impressed with their responses to my inquiries.
              You don't need a parachute to skydive, you only need a parachute to skydive twice.

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              • herb fellows
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                • Apr 2007
                • 1867
                • New York City
                • bt3100

                #22
                Originally posted by SARGE..g-47
                Sorry Chiz... I almost missed this as I ripped around 600 linear feet yesterday and jointed it today.. I get pretty busy and don't always have time to check out the forum. I used to get messages on e-mail in a thread I had subscribed too... but for whatever reason I don't anymore?

                I get my paper from Klingspors and they have about all grits up to 1200. And yes... on the next go around I am going to go to paper with spray adhesive. But... the self-adhesive rolls I use come in about 30' and once you get backs flattened... it doesn't take much to do my two sets of chisels with separate skews and about 5 hand plane irons.

                I do use a wet-dry 2000 with adhesive now.. but that is as high as I feel I need to go. Sharp is sharp and I won't spend and hour extra of time I really don't have to give a brilliant edge that will last about 2 minutes more in actual use. I do strop often in the middle of a project with a simple leather strop and green rouge.

                Good luck...
                Where do you get the 2000? The most i've been able to find 'retail' is 1500, from Western Tool.
                You don't need a parachute to skydive, you only need a parachute to skydive twice.

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                • scmhogg
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1839
                  • Simi Valley, CA, USA.
                  • BT3000

                  #23
                  Herb,

                  There are a number of sources on ebay that sell up to 3000 grit. I bought a bunch a couple of years ago and have no complaints.

                  Steve
                  I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong. Bertrand Russell

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                  • messmaker
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2004
                    • 1495
                    • RICHMOND, KY, USA.
                    • Ridgid 2424

                    #24
                    I have several sharpening tools but the easiest for me is a small $30 benchtop 1 x30 belt sander laid down so the belt goes away from you. A few different grip sanding belts and a leather honing belt and you can do most anything. you may want to add a toolrest but I can freehand it without a ton of difficulty.
                    spellling champion Lexington region 1982

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                    • dsb1829
                      Forum Newbie
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 15

                      #25
                      Check out Marc's discussion here:
                      http://thewoodwhisperer.com/demo-nig...ening-options/

                      He goes through basically all the options as far as what you could buy.

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                      • shoottx
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                        • May 2008
                        • 1240
                        • Plano, Texas
                        • BT3000

                        #26
                        Originally posted by herb fellows
                        Where do you get the 2000? The most i've been able to find 'retail' is 1500, from Western Tool.
                        Most automotive paint stores will have the very fine grit 1000-3000 in stock. I have a Veritas MKII and love it. I use a granite square the size of a sheet of sand paper and wet the granite and it holds wet/dry paper with out adhesive.
                        Often in error - Never in doubt

                        Mike

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                        • herb fellows
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                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1867
                          • New York City
                          • bt3100

                          #27
                          Originally posted by scmhogg
                          I use the MKII and a 12" X 24" piece of 1/2" glass. I use grits of sandpaper up to 4000. I also use some abrasive powders that I bought from a telescope company. I finish up with a leather strop charged with rouge. I am more than satisfied with the results on flat chisels and plane irons.

                          Steve
                          Steve, would you care to divulge your sources for the 4000 grit and the abrasive powders? I'm just starting out in this sharpening business and any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
                          You don't need a parachute to skydive, you only need a parachute to skydive twice.

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                          • scmhogg
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1839
                            • Simi Valley, CA, USA.
                            • BT3000

                            #28
                            Herb,

                            I bought the abrasive powders at http://gotgrit.com/index.php.

                            The wet dry sandpapers were on ebay by a company called Abrasives and More.

                            Steve
                            I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong. Bertrand Russell

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                            • BasementJunkie
                              Forum Newbie
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 58

                              #29
                              I found 2000 grit automotive wet/dry sandpaper at Wal-Mart yesterday. Just look in the automotive section, not tools or paints.

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                              • sscherin
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 772
                                • Kennewick, WA, USA.

                                #30
                                I've been doing Scary Sharp on MDF, formica counter top or glass.

                                Cheep $12 guide form Rockler or woodcraft
                                http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...s=5515&pcs=fam

                                I get my sandpaper from Sherman Williams

                                Works for me on Chisels and plane irons

                                William's Law--
                                There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it
                                cannot be solved by brute strength and ignorance.

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