Best Way To make a Rabbet?

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  • BigguyZ
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 1818
    • Minneapolis, MN
    • Craftsman, older type w/ cast iron top

    #1

    Best Way To make a Rabbet?

    OK, so I'm making a table saw workcenter, and the design calls for rabbets. The article recomends using a dado stack in the TS to cut the 3/4" x 3/8" rabbet into 3/4" MDF.

    I have a dado stack, but I have yet to buy or make a dado throat plate. So, I was thinking that I could either use a dado stack without any throat plate, or use a rabbet bit in my router. I have a brand new rabbet bit that uses interchangable bearings to adjust the size of the rabbet. If there's a bearing that allows me to cut a 3/4" rabbet, should I use that instead?
  • LarryG
    The Full Monte
    • May 2004
    • 6693
    • Off The Back
    • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

    #2
    Originally posted by BigguyZ
    I have a brand new rabbet bit that uses interchangable bearings to adjust the size of the rabbet. If there's a bearing that allows me to cut a 3/4" rabbet, should I use that instead?
    Yes, but make at least two passes (i.e., cut 3/16" of depth each pass) to ease the workload on the bit.

    Assuming reasonably large panels, since it's MDF and a non-through cut, you could do this on a TS without a throat plate. The router will be safer, though.
    Larry

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    • jziegler
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2005
      • 1149
      • Salem, NJ, USA.
      • Ryobi BT3100

      #3
      I don't think it's very safe to use the table saw without a throat plate (and the BT dado plate is questional). If you have a bearing, use the rabbet bit. I don't know that there will be one small enough though.

      A trick that I've done a few times is to set the dado stack narrower (say 3/8") and then you can use the dado blade with the stock throat plate. Make 2 or 3 passes.

      Jim

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      • Otter
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2003
        • 865
        • Cumming, GA, USA.
        • Delta Left Tilt UniSaw

        #4
        Another option is to use a 1/2" straight bit in the router and a fence. You can set the bit to the full 3/8" hight and then making several pass moving the fence a 1/8" back would do the trick.
        All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible

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        • BigguyZ
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          • Jul 2006
          • 1818
          • Minneapolis, MN
          • Craftsman, older type w/ cast iron top

          #5
          Well, I don't have a router table set up yet, so if I did go with the router rout (no pun intended), then it'd be handheld.

          The panels are a decent size- 11x18" I think is the smallest I'b be using.

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          • LCHIEN
            Super Moderator
            • Dec 2002
            • 22000
            • Katy, TX, USA.
            • BT3000 vintage 1999

            #6
            Originally posted by Otter
            Another option is to use a 1/2" straight bit in the router and a fence. You can set the bit to the full 3/8" hight and then making several pass moving the fence a 1/8" back would do the trick.

            Using a narrower bit, you stll have to limit the depth of cut because the bit is weaker.
            Overall, I find making a dado cut better for long passes. Bite the bullet, make the dado plate, you'll need one anyway. It's an investment of 20 minute for the future of your woodworking. Once you have a dado plate you will always have the choice of dado or router. Until then, you are limited.
            Last edited by LCHIEN; 02-09-2007, 08:10 AM.
            Loring in Katy, TX USA
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            • ChrisD
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2004
              • 881
              • CHICAGO, IL, USA.

              #7
              BigGuy,

              Like Loring said, whether you decide to use the router or the TS now, having a bunch of throat plates for different uses definitely helps.

              In case you're not sure how to make one that will fit the opening on the BT3100 perfectly, search for the member vinht. Vinh has a drawing with exact measurements for the rabbet and screw locations.

              Now this may sound like a chicken-and-egg situation because now you need to cut rabbets for the throat plate, which you need to help you cut rabbets in the first place! The rabbets on the throat plate are not that deep or wide, so nibbling away with a regular blade should work.
              The war against inferior and overpriced furniture continues!

              Chris

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              • BigguyZ
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2006
                • 1818
                • Minneapolis, MN
                • Craftsman, older type w/ cast iron top

                #8
                Thanks Chris, but I'm a darksider with an old Craftsman TS.

                I don't know how long it takes to make a decent-enough TP, so I was looking for other options. But I guess I should just bite the bullet and make my first...

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                • radhak
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 3061
                  • Miramar, FL
                  • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigguyZ

                  I don't know how long it takes to make a decent-enough TP, so I was looking for other options. But I guess I should just bite the bullet and make my first...
                  take it from me : it is simpler than you think. just a couple of hours, not even a whole evening.

                  i made a zero-clearance TP when i was a abject newbie : having used a TS for just a month or so, and while i had a lot trepidation before, once i was done it was more like : is that all it takes?

                  i used mdf, and used a jigsaw to cut the general shape and a router/table for cleanup and for the various rabbets etc. i messed up one within the first 20 minutes and wasted another 20 minutes trying to rescue it; gave up when i realized i was trying to save just a 4" x 10" piece of mdf and nothing more.

                  And yes, the effort on the 2nd piece was even less ('experience' !). once the piece is cut to the fit into the opening, raising the blade slowly was smooth - nice thing about mdf. Check out this step-by-step at Woodsmith.
                  Last edited by radhak; 02-09-2007, 09:56 AM. Reason: grammer
                  It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
                  - Aristotle

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                  • BigguyZ
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 1818
                    • Minneapolis, MN
                    • Craftsman, older type w/ cast iron top

                    #10
                    I think their server is having issues. Both Woodsmith and Shopnotes aren't working....

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                    • RodKirby
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 3136
                      • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
                      • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

                      #11
                      I have been routing rabbets in MDF for years!

                      I have a 1" dia spiral bit "permanently" mounted in my larger Router table.

                      The method I use is to set the bit to the full height (say 3/8" for a 3/4" workpiece), and then make several (usually 3), passes, moving the router fence.

                      Last edited by RodKirby; 12-06-2008, 09:26 PM.
                      Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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                      • linear
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2004
                        • 612
                        • DeSoto, KS, USA.
                        • Ryobi BT3100

                        #12
                        Get one momma rabbet and one daddy rabbet...


                        (someone had to say it)
                        --Rob

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                        • Ken Massingale
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 3862
                          • Liberty, SC, USA.
                          • Ridgid TS3650

                          #13
                          Originally posted by linear
                          Get one momma rabbet and one daddy rabbet...


                          (someone had to say it)
                          Dangit Rob, you beat me to it!

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                          • scorrpio
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 1566
                            • Wayne, NJ, USA.

                            #14
                            I ordered a couple sheets of 1/4" thick UHMW and made 8 throat plate blanks from them. Got all 8 done in less than an hour total using same setups to machine all 8. One is now a ZCTP for regular blade, lenghtened to accomodate a riving knife. A couple are different size dadoes. Was real easy to make, too.

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                            • BigguyZ
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 1818
                              • Minneapolis, MN
                              • Craftsman, older type w/ cast iron top

                              #15
                              Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I sucked it up and made myself a ZCTP for the dado. I used MDF and it took maybe 45 minutes. Had some issues, but I eventually realized what was going on and got it to work.

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