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  • Asennad
    Forum Newbie
    • Jan 2005
    • 15
    • Toronto, Canada.

    Urgent help needed.

    Hi I am building a dollhouse for my 3 yr old niece for Christmas. I am using plans I found on the internet a couple of years ago. The roof has small two gables but the instructions do not give compound cut angles and relies on trim to cover the butt joints. As I am not using trim just paint I need to make water tight joints where the gables meet. In the future I will add trim.

    The center roof angle is 90 degrees and the two smaller gables are 67 degrees. Where the center roof meets the small gables the plans specify a 51 degree flat cut without any bevel. I need to know what bevel angle I need. Thanks.
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  • Scottydont
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2003
    • 2359
    • Edmonds, WA, USA.
    • Delta Industrial Hybrid

    #2
    Oh...LORING!
    Scott
    "The Laminate Flooring Benchtop Guy"

    Edmonds WA

    No coffee, no worky!

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    • Tom Miller
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2003
      • 2507
      • Twin Cities, MN
      • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

      #3
      Maybe I'm missing something, but why does there need to be a bevel there? I would think a flat cut on the gable roof would be butting up to the flat surface of the main roof, no? I guess I don't see why this joint would be mitered.

      Regards,
      Tom

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      • cgallery
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2004
        • 4503
        • Milwaukee, WI
        • BT3K

        #4
        +1 what Tom says. No bevel necessary.

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        • JR
          The Full Monte
          • Feb 2004
          • 5633
          • Eugene, OR
          • BT3000

          #5
          The compound cut must be at 78.48*.

          Proof:
          If the gable roof were horizontal (0*), the compound cut would be at 45*.
          If the gable roof were vertical (90*), the compund cut would be at 90*.
          The answer is therefore between 45* to 90*, or a total of 45*, when the gable angle is between 0* and 90*.
          67*, the angle of the gable roof, is 74.4% of 90*,
          therefore the compound angle must (74.4% of 45*)+45, or 78.48*.

          I guess you actually set the angle at 90-78.48=11.52*

          Or maybe it's a different answer, using logic which I don't understand, which frequently happens. Whatever.

          JR
          JR

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          • backpacker85
            Established Member
            • Sep 2006
            • 148
            • Dickson, TN
            • BT3100-1

            #6
            If you're talking about where the "sheathing" will meet in the valley, as long as the roof ridges are perpendicular, there should be no bevel required.
            Ken W.
            _____________________
            "If you can't fix it right, fix it so no one else can fix it right."

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            • LCHIEN
              Internet Fact Checker
              • Dec 2002
              • 21105
              • Katy, TX, USA.
              • BT3000 vintage 1999

              #7
              I, too, don't understand why a bevel is needed or wanted. Won't be obvious either way.
              Loring in Katy, TX USA
              If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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              • backpacker85
                Established Member
                • Sep 2006
                • 148
                • Dickson, TN
                • BT3100-1

                #8
                .....maybe back cut a few degrees just to make sure the exposed edge butts tight, but other than that.......thicker paint
                Ken W.
                _____________________
                "If you can't fix it right, fix it so no one else can fix it right."

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                • Asennad
                  Forum Newbie
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 15
                  • Toronto, Canada.

                  #9
                  The joint absolutely needed a bevel cut.

                  As I had already joined the two pieces that formed each gable I taped some sandpaper to a work bench and hand sanded the bevel into the piece. Worked out well.

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                  • backpacker85
                    Established Member
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 148
                    • Dickson, TN
                    • BT3100-1

                    #10
                    Sorry....the more I thought about it, you and JR were absolutely correct.

                    Guess I never had to bevel my plywood in a valley like that, but I sure have had to bevel a few rafters that hit the main roof in the same fashion.
                    Ken W.
                    _____________________
                    "If you can't fix it right, fix it so no one else can fix it right."

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