Extreme frustration with sliding miter table

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  • ksu93
    Forum Newbie
    • Feb 2006
    • 44
    • Topeka, KS
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #1

    Extreme frustration with sliding miter table

    While setting up my brand new BT3100 today I noticed that, when I attached the sliding miter table, secured it, and then slid it back and forth, the space between the edge of the table top and the edge of the sliding miter table increases as I slide the miter table from front to back. Clearly the sliding miter table is not parallel with the table top.

    I went to the page in the instructions titled "To Check Miter Base Parallelism," which confirmed that they're not parallel. Then I went through the instructions on the next page titled "To Adjust the Miter Base." After doing that five times, I still cannot get them parallel. According to my measurements they're parallel, but the space between the sliding miter table and the table top still changes visibly as I push the miter table from front to back.

    I'm getting very angry because I never had to do anything like this with my BT3000, and I shouldn't have to spend an entire afternoon doing something that Ryobi should have done in the factory. What on earth am I doing wrong?
  • charliex
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2004
    • 632
    • Spring Valley, MN, USA.
    • Sears equivelent BT3100-1

    #2
    Hi ksu93:
    Travel of the SMT parallel to the table is not important. SMT travel parallel to the blade is what is important and that is what the adjustments are all about. My SMT does just what yours does, gets wider at the far end of travel,.but since it runs parallel to the blade my cuts come out square. It some times bugs me that it looks odd, but it's only a sign that the edge of the table is not square with blade. Don't affect my cuts, no problem, I can live with it
    Hope this helps.
    Chas

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    • LCHIEN
      Super Moderator
      • Dec 2002
      • 21981
      • Katy, TX, USA.
      • BT3000 vintage 1999

      #3
      Originally posted by charliex
      Hi ksu93:
      Travel of the SMT parallel to the table is not important. SMT travel parallel to the blade is what is important and that is what the adjustments are all about. My SMT does just what yours does, gets wider at the far end of travel,.but since it runs parallel to the blade my cuts come out square. It some times bugs me that it looks odd, but it's only a sign that the edge of the table is not square with blade. Don't affect my cuts, no problem, I can live with it
      Hope this helps.
      Chas
      That's right.

      To keep costs down, the engineers at Ryobi elected not to put a adjustable motor and bracket carriage assembly in which would need to be mechanically stout to bear the weight of the motor and move for tilt and elevation. Most saws need this to align with the miter slot cast into the table.

      Instead they made the miter slot "equivalent part", the SMT, moveable at a cheaper cost and somewhat better performance since the SMT provides a lot more support and bigger angle scale than your typical miter bar.

      So alinment to the table is non-existant, if you have it, it's purely by luck. The key is the alignment of SMT to blade.
      Last edited by LCHIEN; 04-17-2006, 08:48 AM.
      Loring in Katy, TX USA
      If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
      BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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      • LarryG
        The Full Monte
        • May 2004
        • 6693
        • Off The Back
        • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

        #4
        Originally posted by charliex
        Hi ksu93:
        Travel of the SMT parallel to the table is not important.
        That is technically correct. Whether the sliding part of the SMT table moves parallel to the blade matters not; it can "dog walk" and not hurt a thing as long as the non-sliding base to which it is attached is parallel to the blade.

        HOWEVER (there's always a "however," isn't there?) if you want the miter scale markings cast into the top of the SMT to be meaningful, then it must be adjusted so that it slides parallel to the blade. If the sliding table is cockeyed, the miter scale will be too.

        Adjusting the SMT until it's perfect in all respects takes one to two hours and will consume an entire five gallon bucket of Industrial Strength Patience.
        Larry

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        • LCHIEN
          Super Moderator
          • Dec 2002
          • 21981
          • Katy, TX, USA.
          • BT3000 vintage 1999

          #5
          Originally posted by LarryG
          ...
          Adjusting the SMT until it's perfect in all respects takes one to two hours and will consume an entire five gallon bucket of Industrial Strength Patience.
          And it still likely won't be parallel to the table.
          Loring in Katy, TX USA
          If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
          BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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