Hate to bring this up but, jigsaw (freud vs bosch)

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  • mschrank
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2004
    • 1130
    • Hood River, OR, USA.
    • BT3000

    #16
    I'm not picking the Bosch over the Freud (I'm still suffering with my Craftsman bone shaker ), but if you do decide to go with the Bosch, you might check out a reconditioned unit at CPO Bosch.

    IMO, reconditioned tools are a pretty good deal. Besides saving $40+, I figure the unit you are buying has been thoroughly checked out, as opposed to a new unit that might or might not be individually inspected. Plus, these carry the same warranty.

    I recently bought the 1617EVSPK router combo from CPO and was happy with the deal.
    Mike

    Drywall screws are not wood screws

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    • dbarnett
      Established Member
      • Aug 2004
      • 103
      • San Diego
      • JET-10CW2-PF 10 Contractor-Style Tablesaw

      #17
      I have a Rigid Cordless that a paid $129 for.

      I have used a Bosch 1587 and now the Rigid R843 and I honestly can't tell the difference between them. I borrowed my friends 1587 just to compare the performance between them. The only thing that I don't like, is that I have to blow the dust to see the blade when I am approaching another cut. The rechargeable aspect is nice, no cords! I have yet to exhaust the battery on a project yet.

      There still might be some of the Rigid Cordless Jigsaw around as they were clearanced a few months ago. Could save you some money if you found one, like I did.

      Dan

      Dan

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      • 430752
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2004
        • 855
        • Northern NJ, USA.
        • BT3100

        #18
        Barrel Grip!

        I have the Bosch 1590 and luv it like it were my, well, ... you get the idea. But, I've never used the freud so I can't honestly compare.

        HOWEVER, when I bought the bosch, I got the barrel grip based on reviews, including the one at newwoodworker.com, mentioned above. I must say that is the cat's meows or the bee's knees, or whatever. I've had handle grips and now barrel grip and much love the barrel grip. It feels a bit odd at first, but then its second nature. So, for me, if I couldn't get the freud in the barrel grip, I'd go the bosch for that reason alone.

        but, this is me.

        curt j.
        A Man is incomplete until he gets married ... then he's FINISHED!!!

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        • drumpriest
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          • Feb 2004
          • 3338
          • Pittsburgh, Pa, USA.
          • Powermatic PM 2000

          #19
          Is it the duck's guts???
          Keith Z. Leonard
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          • hpark2
            Forum Newbie
            • Mar 2006
            • 11

            #20
            If you are thinking of shelling out $159 for Bosch, go down to your local HD and check out the smaller version (but trust me they are not very small) of HILTI jig saw. I tried testcut there and man it was SMOOTH and it was really beefy!! Also, I think I liked the blade support on HILTI better than Bosch. (side way support) HILTI also had quick change blade mechanism.

            FYI, I own neither unfortunately, I am trying to get my OLD Crapsman to die so that I can shell out for one of the above. But for some reason, it won't die!! AAARRRGGGHHH!!!.

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            • johnny02

              #21
              Love the Bosch

              I've never tried the Freud so I really can't compare. I have the Bosch 1591EVS Barrel Grip and it's one of my most used tools. I've used it for anything from cutting gutters to cutting laminate floor during my recent home addition. I built SWMBO a garden bench using this tool almost exclusively. The barrel grip really gives you control. I would never go back to a top grip. The orbital allows you to cut fast when need be, but you can turn it off and slowdown the speed and cut laminate chipfree (with masking tape of course)I've heard Festool is the best, but I can't imagine it being much better than the Bosch especially when you consider the price difference. I've never once had any regrets or buyer remorse. Again, I'm sure the Freud is a fine tool, I've just never made a single cut with one.

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              • SHADOWFOX
                Veteran Member
                • May 2005
                • 1232
                • IL, USA.
                • DELTA 36-675

                #22
                Bosch 1590EVSK Top Handle Jigsaw

                Got this jigsaw and very happy with it. Can't really go wrong with Bosch when it comes to jigsaws.
                Chris

                "The first key to wisdom is constant and frequent questioning, for by doubting we are led to question and by questioning we arrive at the truth." -Pierre Abelard 11th Century philosopher.

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                • leehljp
                  The Full Monte
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 8764
                  • Tunica, MS
                  • BT3000/3100

                  #23
                  I have a top of the line PC (5 years ago) and while it is way above the craftsman that I had, it is not a real smooth cutter. Too much blade deflection and vibration, but not as much the craftsman. I also have a HF Bosch clone that is better than my PC.

                  This is an individual preference thing: I just as soon do without and go to another project as have a saw that deflects. I don't like cuts that are "good enough", I want them perfect. I hate having to straighten up cuts with a sander, - hate it with a passion! For me it is worth the extra effort of waiting until I get the extra money to buy what will work RIGHT - not just OK.

                  By getting the best tool, you can eliminate a lot of error. For some this is too high a price, and "good enough" is OK. Then there are those who can take a terrible tool and do better than I can with the best tool available bar none.

                  Thanks Mike for that Bosch link. I might have to get me one of the refurbs.
                  Hank Lee

                  Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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                  • tg3
                    Forum Newbie
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 43
                    • Seattle, WA.
                    • Grizzly G0444Z

                    #24
                    Another vote for Bosch. I got my 1587 used off ebay. After a bit of cleaning, it was only a few scuff marks from new.
                    If you don't measure, you don't know.

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                    • sweensdv
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 2872
                      • WI
                      • Baileigh TS-1040P-50

                      #25
                      I just received a Rockler catalog in the mail yesterday. They have the Freud FJ85 on sale for under $100. I did find it a little curious though because the ad had the saw labeled as "NEW". I've had mine for years.
                      _________________________
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                      • tmaceroli
                        Established Member
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 133
                        • Forked River, New Jersey, USA.
                        • Ryobi BT3100

                        #26
                        Another vote for the Bosch. I have the 1587 VSP, switching from an old B&D. Could not be happier. I also use the Progressor blades. Cuts very smoothly, blade change is easy. Have no experience with any others, other than a Craftsman, which worked pretty well. Not to complicate it for you, but have you decided on top handle or barrel handle? I would go with the barrel handle. Top handle makes it more difficult to cut curves, IMO.
                        Tony

                        "Nothing would be done at all if a man waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault with it."
                        - Cardinal Newman

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                        • Joe Lyddon
                          Established Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 203
                          • Alta Loma, CA, USA.

                          #27
                          I have the Bosch too... I simply LOVE it! I don't know about Freud... can't compare...

                          The blades and the SMOOTHNESS of the Bosch are outstanding... I got edges so smooth on cabinet grade ply... like glass... no sanding required... In fact, I don't think I could'a sanded the edges as smooth as the cut edge!

                          Unbelieveably G R E A T!!

                          I am super happy with the Bosch!
                          Have Fun!
                          Joe Lyddon

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                          • fergusburger
                            Forum Newbie
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 53
                            • Stillwater, MN, USA.
                            • BT3

                            #28
                            Bosch hyperbole

                            I've read many posts in this and other threads about jigsaw performance and frankly I think that many approach hyperbole regarding the smoothness of the cut (particularly when the machine is a Bosch) and could be misleading to potential purchasers. I use a Bosch 1590 top handle. It is a solid machine, cuts with authority and precision, and compared to my old Craftsman (funny how so many of us have old Craftsman tools), it is a smooth and straight cutter. I almost always use it with a saw board for long rips or ply cuts that would be awkward or unsafe on the BT3. The cuts are good, but really not the same as what I could get if I were to set up the table saw in a way that could safely support the same rip or ply cut (two people, extensions, etc). It is a very functional machine for its purpose, but I bet that there are less expensive and equally functional alternatives. For heaven's sake, if your budget says Freud, then go Freud and don't sweat the brand. Take someone you love out for dinner on what you save.

                            Tom

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                            • Tom Slick
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2005
                              • 2913
                              • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
                              • sears BT3 clone

                              #29
                              another vote for the bosch. I have had a 1590EVSK in service for over a year cutting 6/4 hard maple for 2 hours a day. I have done no maintenance to it. that is durability.
                              Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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                              • Jeffrey Schronce
                                Veteran Member
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 3822
                                • York, PA, USA.
                                • 22124

                                #30
                                Originally posted by fergusburger
                                I've read many posts in this and other threads about jigsaw performance and frankly I think that many approach hyperbole regarding the smoothness of the cut (particularly when the machine is a Bosch) and could be misleading to potential purchasers. I use a Bosch 1590 top handle.
                                The cuts are good, but really not the same as what I could get if I were to set up the table saw in a way that could safely support the same rip or ply cut (two people, extensions, etc). It is a very functional machine for its purpose, but I bet that there are less expensive and equally functional alternatives. For heaven's sake, if your budget says Freud, then go Freud and don't sweat the brand. Take someone you love out for dinner on what you save.
                                Tom
                                1) Are you using the appropriate blades and guides for the job at hand?
                                2) If price is an issue the 1587 can often be had for right around a $100.

                                Nothing wrong with the Freud as far as I know, however I really like the 1587 and 1590. My cuts with those jigsaws are equal to the TS cut with 50 ATB Lietz combo, assuming that is my goal. Often, if I am ripping sheet goods then I am sticking a Progressor blade in there that is very fast but less smooth. I then square things up and smooth things over with the TS. I don't think anyone is going to argue that a jigsaw will replace your TS, however a jigsaw makes cutting a circle a lot easier!

                                The Bosch 1587 and 1590 are pretty much the standard by which others are measured. They have great, practical functions that work well. Blower works well. Orbital action is great. Speed control is nice. Tool less blade change is great (esp 1590). Dust collection is good with the adapter. Bosch does all these things very well. That is why you see so many recommendations.

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