router on saw or dedicated table?

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  • SandhillMike
    Forum Newbie
    • Jan 2006
    • 20
    • Archer, Fla, USA.

    #1

    router on saw or dedicated table?

    Hello guys, newbee here. I bought a BT3100 at HD while they were on sale in Dec (still haven't seen the $50 rebate) as it seemed too good a deal to pass up. My question is on the router attachment. As a semi novice, would I be better off with a dedicated router table, or is mounting it to the saw a reasonable alternative. I'm sure this gets asked a lot, but since I'm new here....[:I]
  • RodKirby
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2002
    • 3136
    • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
    • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

    #2
    Welcome!

    If you have the space - Dedicated Router table is MUCH easier to use - no fence sharing.

    Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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    • Pappy
      The Full Monte
      • Dec 2002
      • 10481
      • San Marcos, TX, USA.
      • BT3000 (x2)

      #3
      I have, and use, both. If I hd to eliminate one, it would be the BT mounted router.
      Don, aka Pappy,

      Wise men talk because they have something to say,
      Fools because they have to say something.
      Plato

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      • softop41
        Established Member
        • Jul 2004
        • 470
        • Plainfield, IL, USA.
        • BT3100-1

        #4
        Dedicated router table is the ONLY way to go
        Jerry
        Jerry
        Making High Quality Sawdust in Northeast Plainfield

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        • Whaler
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2002
          • 3281
          • Sequim, WA, USA.
          • DW746

          #5
          I bought the router kit for the BT and returned it. As my space is at a premium I had to come up with something that didn't take up anymore floor space. Here is my set up. If I need the extra cutting capacity the router table is easy to lift off.
          Bench Dog 40-001 table


          Dick

          http://www.picasaweb.google.com/rgpete2/

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          • SandhillMike
            Forum Newbie
            • Jan 2006
            • 20
            • Archer, Fla, USA.

            #6
            Thanks fellas, I suspected as much, but wanted some experienced feedback. I have the room, so I guess I'll buy or try to build a table.

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            • drumpriest
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2004
              • 3338
              • Pittsburgh, Pa, USA.
              • Powermatic PM 2000

              #7
              I will mirror everyone else's response. I like my seperate setup much better than I did when I had it in the bt3100. Having said that, I am thinking of building a router setup into my extension (1/2 extension rails), because I am running out of room in my shop for tools.

              A seperate fence can make a bt mounted router table just as nice as the one that I have seperately.

              Keith Z. Leonard
              Go Steelers!

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              • LCHIEN
                Super Moderator
                • Dec 2002
                • 22012
                • Katy, TX, USA.
                • BT3000 vintage 1999

                #8
                This is another frequent question.
                the pros and cons of this are listed in the BT3 FAQ.
                A permanent clickable link to the FAQ is found in the first post under "Getting Started" here on BT3 central.

                Loring in Katy, TX USA
                If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                • gmack5
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 1972
                  • Quapaw, Oklahoma, USA.
                  • Ryobi BT3000SX & BT3100

                  #9
                  Add another vote for a free-standing Router Table.

                  If you have the room, that would be the better way to go.

                  One of the first things you need to do is get a good book on Routers and their use. There are several good ones out there, you just need to look for them.

                  Bill Hoylton is one of the better authorities on the subject of Routers, as well as Pat Warner who, I believe, wrote the Router Handbook.



                  Stop thinking why you can't and Start thinking how you CAN!
                  Remember, SUCCESS comes in CANS!
                  George

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                  • monte
                    ***** Windbag
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 5242
                    • Paw Paw, MI, USA.
                    • GI 50-185M

                    #10
                    If you have the room build yourself a dedicated router table.
                    Monte (another darksider)
                    Reporting Live from somewhere near Kalamazoo

                    http://community.webshots.com/user/monte49002

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                    • Tool Fool
                      Established Member
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 128
                      • .

                      #11
                      The primary advantage of having the RT in a TS wing is space savings. If you've got the room there are advantages to a separate setup/

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                      • LarryG
                        The Full Monte
                        • May 2004
                        • 6693
                        • Off The Back
                        • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

                        #12
                        The book George (gmack5) mentions is "Woodworking With The Router" by Bill Hylton and Fred Matlack. Get this book. As I have said many times, it's the best router "accessory" you'll ever buy (sidebar to Loring: can we get this into the FAQ, please? Thank you).

                        EDIT: There's a new edition of this book coming in late March. It might contain enough new information to be worth waiting for; OTOH, it may only be available in hardcover for a while and will cost more.

                        Also see www.patwarner.com ... tons and tons of good info there.

                        A lot of guys use the BT's router mount to help them build a standalone router table (which, I agree, is the hot ticket if you have the room). Like Pappy, I still use my BT mount. I keep my old 1HP Craftsman in there, with a 1/4" roundover bit chucked up. Roundovers are a cut made frequently and don't usually require a fence, so for this the BT mount works great. All my "serious" routing is done on the big table, though.
                        Larry

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                        • kyle.w
                          Established Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 425
                          • paw paw, mi, USA.
                          • GI 50-185M

                          #13
                          i have a Dedicated Router table they are better

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                          • vaking
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 1428
                            • Montclair, NJ, USA.
                            • Ryobi BT3100-1

                            #14
                            I guess I am a minority here.
                            I have a router mounted into BT and I have a stand-alone router table (Craftsman Mid -size pro table, not a high end though). Craftsman table gets very little use, Router in BT is a work-horse. There are few key points however:
                            I have a wide table kit, so the router and the saw have real space to share. Without the wide table kit I tried router in BT - not comfortable.
                            Do not share the rip fence of BT with the router fence. Make a separate router fence.
                            Even though the router in BT is mounted into the accesory table I put some thought into setting router conviniently.
                            The miter slot table is mounted in such way that it can be used with the saw blade or with the router depending where you need it. The SMT can be placed next to accessory table and then the SMT becomes the sled that is so convinient with the router. Many places sell router sleds separately - I don't need it.
                            Alex V

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                            • gmack5
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 1972
                              • Quapaw, Oklahoma, USA.
                              • Ryobi BT3000SX & BT3100

                              #15
                              quote:Originally posted by vaking

                              I guess I am a minority here.
                              I have a router mounted into BT and I have a stand-alone router table (Craftsman Mid -size pro table, not a high end though). Craftsman table gets very little use, Router in BT is a work-horse. There are few key points however:
                              I have a wide table kit, so the router and the saw have real space to share. Without the wide table kit I tried router in BT - not comfortable.
                              Do not share the rip fence of BT with the router fence. Make a separate router fence.
                              Even though the router in BT is mounted into the accesory table I put some thought into setting router conviniently.
                              The miter slot table is mounted in such way that it can be used with the saw blade or with the router depending where you need it. The SMT can be placed next to accessory table and then the SMT becomes the sled that is so convinient with the router.
                              If you have a digital Camera, I'd like to see a photograph of your setup and I would think others would too. [^]



                              Stop thinking why you can't and Start thinking how you CAN!
                              Remember, SUCCESS comes in CANS!
                              George

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