Building a Cross-Cut Sled

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  • mcdowch
    Handtools only
    • Sep 2005
    • 3
    • Marietta, GA, USA.

    #1

    Building a Cross-Cut Sled

    Guys, I want to build a cross-cut sled. I have the accessory Miter slot. Do I need to buy another in-order to make the sled?

    Best Regards.
    \"You don\'t drown by falling in the water - you drown by staying there\"
  • jAngiel
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2003
    • 561
    • Ryobi BT3100

    #2
    I'm in the same boat, I am planning on building a couple sleds. From what I gathered here it can be done successfully with one runner.
    James

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    • RodKirby
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2002
      • 3136
      • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
      • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

      #3
      Do you have problems with the SMT?
      Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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      • MilDoc

        #4
        Might check Tolpin's book "Table Saw Magic," nice plans for a CC sled. Haven't made one yet (it's "on my list") but it's gotten great reviews.

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        • drumpriest
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2004
          • 3338
          • Pittsburgh, Pa, USA.
          • Powermatic PM 2000

          #5
          I made one for the BT, and it worked great, for about 2 days. The issues is that without the other miter slot the right hand side is cantelevered, and can shift, even with 2+ screws on that side. I think in general that it's a good idea to have runners on both sides of the blades.

          Rod, there are some cuts that are easier on a sled than with a SMT, like cutting loose tenons to size, for instance, where you don't have much material on either side. The SMT is great (when it's aligned and stays that way, which doesn't seem to be often in my experience), but a sled is also very useful.

          I wouldn't want to build a dado sled, that's a great SMT job, but likewise there are cuts that go better on a sled.

          Keith Z. Leonard
          Go Steelers!

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          • scorrpio
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 1566
            • Wayne, NJ, USA.

            #6
            One way to do it is attach a runner so it just hugs the table on the right side. You can also move the accessory table just short of squeezing that runner if you want extra stability. In fact, no miter slot table needed - one can use SMT to form the other runner.
            Here's a crude pic:

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            • drumpriest
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2004
              • 3338
              • Pittsburgh, Pa, USA.
              • Powermatic PM 2000

              #7
              scorrpio, you are assuming that the blade is parallel to the saw body, with the BT3, that's not necessarily the case. If you luck out and it is, then this will work, but the alignment method of this table saw makes it unnecessary that the blade be parallel to the saw body, so I wouldn't assume that it actually is.

              Keith Z. Leonard
              Go Steelers!

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              • monte
                ***** Windbag
                • Dec 2002
                • 5242
                • Paw Paw, MI, USA.
                • GI 50-185M

                #8
                I used one with my BT3000 for several years and it worked fine. I only used one miter slot.
                Monte (another darksider)
                Reporting Live from somewhere near Kalamazoo

                http://community.webshots.com/user/monte49002

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                • Rounder
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1287
                  • Sanford, FL, USA.
                  • BT3100

                  #9
                  I asked the same question a few months back and built a sled using only the runners on one side. As to the slots being parallel to the blade, the adjustment to the fence furthest from the blade corrects that. You square the blade to the fence.
                  George AKA Rounder

                  "Amarillo Slim, the greatist proposition gambler of all time held to his father's maxim; You can shear a sheep many times, but you can skin him only once."

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                  • gjat
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 685
                    • Valrico (Tampa), Florida.
                    • BT3100

                    #10
                    Is it possible to align the accessory table as well as the SMT, to the blade making scorrpio's jig work? Would it stay in alignment?

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                    • Tom Miller
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 2507
                      • Twin Cities, MN
                      • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

                      #11
                      I wonder if you could use the fence as a "runner" on the right side?

                      Keith's comment re: the saw not being parallel to the housing should be read as a red letter warning. That being said, one could attach some shim material on either side of the housing for the sled runners to ride against.

                      One good reason to use the miter slots is that with a single runner on the sled, you could have a "two kerf" sled. Use the right slot for 90 degree cuts, and the left slot for bevels.

                      Regards,
                      Tom

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                      • LarryG
                        The Full Monte
                        • May 2004
                        • 6693
                        • Off The Back
                        • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

                        #12
                        quote:Originally posted by Tom Miller

                        I wonder if you could use the fence as a "runner" on the right side?
                        I flashed on this earlier and dismissed the idea, on the grounds that it violated the cardinal rule about not mixing crosscut operations with ripping operations. But on further review, the face of the fence would be providing exactly the same function as a second miter slot. No reason at all this wouldn't work.

                        How come we don't have a Smilie icon that means "Duh! <slap forehead>"? []
                        Larry

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                        • JR
                          The Full Monte
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 5633
                          • Eugene, OR
                          • BT3000

                          #13
                          quote:Originally posted by Tom Miller


                          One good reason to use the miter slots is that with a single runner on the sled, you could have a "two kerf" sled. Use the right slot for 90 degree cuts, and the left slot for bevels.
                          Well, aren't you the clever boy? I'd have stared at my two DMSTs for a hundred years and never thought of that.

                          Thanks,
                          JR
                          JR

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                          • scorrpio
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 1566
                            • Wayne, NJ, USA.

                            #14
                            drumpriest: yes, it does assume blade parallel to table. Miter slot table is easier to wiggle into parallel.

                            Things to try:
                            1. align your SMT and make a sled that clamps to it.
                            2. miter slot table has two slots, albeit close to each other. Put two runners on your sled so they go into both slots. This should stabilize the sled some.
                            3. get a length of aluminum channel (or T-track) and mount to the right side of table. Should be cheaper than biying another miter slot table.

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                            • vaking
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 1428
                              • Montclair, NJ, USA.
                              • Ryobi BT3100-1

                              #15
                              You can make the second miter slot table yourself without buying. My DSMT from accesory kit is mounted to the right of the blade. I have made a wooden version of a miter slot myself and mounted it on the left also. Wooden version without an aluminum track will work just fine with wooden runners. Don't use miter fence or other metal runners in a wooden miter slot - it will wear out and loose precision. The sled you want to make is likely to have wooden runners anyway.
                              Alex V

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