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  • chopnhack
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 3779
    • Florida
    • Ryobi BT3100

    #1

    Helping out a neighbor......

    My neighbor ordered a new refrigerator and of course it doesn't fit where the old one did. Not that this hasn't happened countless times before to anyone of us

    His upper cabs above his refrigerator were about 5 inches too tall now. My neighbor saw me staining my mail box post and asked me what I thought. Luckily, having done this before, I had some idea of what could be done. I was full of thoughts and ideas as we removed his upper cab, but it wasn't until I got home that I was pleasantly suprised by what lay in wait for me!

    His cabinetry was...ughh....particle board. I was really dreading what was in store for me...but luck prevailed. The glue they used some 20+ years ago had "let go" in most places. It was some brown glue that left behind an elastic residue. I can only conclude that it was some type of inferior polyurethane type glue?





    The cabinetry had a face frame of solid oak, that was joined via pocket screws. They all readily separated, sans one that came apart via some gentle chisel work. Some quick cuts on the scms and some test cuts to set depth on the kreg pocket hole jig and the face frame was back in action - only shorter.





    The formica door had oak trim top and bottom. I needed to remove that to cut the door height down. The wood trim piece was joined via a long tenon that fit into a mortise on the edge of the door. Luckily two came off with no effort thanks to aforementioned glue issue. I set up the bt3 and slowly cut so that the formica didnt chip - the very small chips that did occur were completely hidden by the overlapping lip from the trim.

    With that done, it was to the cabinet itself. After pulling all the screws and staples and other hardware that could damage my sidewinder's nice freud blade, I set up my shop made plywood saw guide and trimmed all 4 sides of the cab. I was able to salvage the bottom "floor" of the cabinet from the cut off sides and back. Even though it was dado'ed into the sides, the small off cut sides peeled right off with just a few staples to pull.






    Now to measure and set up the router to create new dados. I finished the corners with chisels. Reset router into table (if you can call it that ) and make test cuts for making the stopped slots in the edges of the doors to receive the trim's tenons. This was tricky, but as soon as I got my fence close by measuring with a steel ruler, I did a test and used 3 sheets of paper to "move" the workpiece forward to finnagle the cut. I guess i got lucky, all I had to do was turn the door around to reference the other face against the fence and I got a perfect fit!






    Some careful layout and then to boring the new hinge cup locations.



    Hinges done

    Alas, I didnt take a photo before delivering the unit to my neighbor. It was an interesting job in that it went extremely well for what could and usually is a nightmare. I dont know if I am getting better or if lady luck was with me!
    Last edited by chopnhack; 01-06-2009, 11:45 PM. Reason: change url to img for photos to link
    I think in straight lines, but dream in curves
  • shoottx
    Veteran Member
    • May 2008
    • 1240
    • Plano, Texas
    • BT3000

    #2
    Very Cool

    Great job, and I am sure a very thankful neighbor.
    Often in error - Never in doubt

    Mike

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    • RodKirby
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      • Dec 2002
      • 3136
      • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
      • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

      #3
      Fantastic job! No doubt saved him 100's of $
      Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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      • radhak
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        • Apr 2006
        • 3061
        • Miramar, FL
        • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

        #4
        Wow - you put in serious work there! How much time did it take you?

        This I gotta see! You have to ask him to allow you snap a pic or two...
        It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
        - Aristotle

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        • dbhost
          Slow and steady
          • Apr 2008
          • 9476
          • League City, Texas
          • Ryobi BT3100

          #5
          Wow, Formica / Oak doors? I haven't seen those used in a house since the 1970s!

          You are very fortunate for the task you had that the original glue had failed. Unfortunately for your neighbor, that means the rest of his cabinets are most likely just like that...
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          • poolhound
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2006
            • 3196
            • Phoenix, AZ
            • BT3100

            #6
            Super job, where do I need to live to get neighbors like you, I can always use help
            Jon

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            • ironhat
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              • Aug 2004
              • 2553
              • Chambersburg, PA (South-central).
              • Ridgid 3650 (can I still play here?)

              #7
              Very nice save. As him if you can get a pic of the cab hanging over the fridge and post back with it.
              Blessings,
              Chiz

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              • crokett
                The Full Monte
                • Jan 2003
                • 10627
                • Mebane, NC, USA.
                • Ryobi BT3000

                #8
                Wow. That really is helping out a neighbor. Very nice work indeed.
                David

                The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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                • chopnhack
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3779
                  • Florida
                  • Ryobi BT3100

                  #9
                  Thanks fellas. Radhak, all told maybe 3.5 hours spaced over 2 days. I still have to work around baby's sleep schedule. And I will definitely ask him if it would be ok to snap a quick pick.

                  Dbhost, yes, that was my thought too about the glue. It was in my mind originally to cut off the face frame and trim the cab to height and put in a new bottom, use some triangle braces and reattach the finished bottom to hide the bracing, but since it all came apart with some careful prodding it saved me the time.
                  I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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                  • Ed62
                    The Full Monte
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 6021
                    • NW Indiana
                    • BT3K

                    #10
                    Nice job, indeed. Having good neighbors is the biggest thing that makes a person not want to move. We have good ones too.

                    Ed
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                    For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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                    • Woodshark
                      Established Member
                      • May 2006
                      • 158
                      • Atlanta

                      #11
                      You are a nice neighbor to have.

                      Also. I like the idea of using a piece of laminate flooring as a router base.
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                      • cabinetman
                        Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 15216
                        • So. Florida
                        • Delta

                        #12
                        Beyond the call of duty. That's one of those projects that everything has to go just right. Those hinges ended up pretty close together, did the doors wind up with some up/down play?

                        Nice work, and great pictures.
                        .

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                        • footprintsinconc
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                          • Nov 2006
                          • 1759
                          • Roseville (Sacramento), CA
                          • BT3100

                          #13
                          sweet! that was some real ww skill application job you got. glad to see that there were no hitches!
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                          • lrogers
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                            • Dec 2002
                            • 3853
                            • Mobile, AL. USA.
                            • BT3000

                            #14
                            It's guys like you that restore my faith in human kind.
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                            • chopnhack
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3779
                              • Florida
                              • Ryobi BT3100

                              #15
                              Thanks again guys
                              Woodshark, the laminate flooring was a fluke, it was the hardest and flatest thing I had at the time (6 years ago, ugh) and I really needed a router table asap, it has held up remarkable well, despite my poor countersinking for the screws back then. I will tell you though, it would be better to stop at your local metal supply and just get yourself some 1/4" aluminum plate, the size your looking for as a router insert is usually an off-cut from their scrap rack.

                              C-man, you ain't kidding! I had an elaborate primary plan, but the simple rebuild method just unfolded. I reused the upper hinge screw hole locations from the face frame to register the position of the door. Luckily the hinges were Grass fully adjustable so even if they were not dead on, I could adjust for them. Since I had the original holes to go by, the new cup locations worked out fine without any adjustments necessary.

                              Schleeper, you wont believe me on this, but pocket holes are old hat. Ancient Egyptians were the first to join two pieces of wood together, drill a hole at a shallow angle and use a dowel that was then cut flush!!! So much for us being modern.
                              I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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