Cross cutting 2 x 4's and the Craftsman 21829

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  • Bill in Buena Park
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 1867
    • Buena Park, CA
    • CM 21829

    #16
    Originally posted by Charlie
    Hire it out before you get seriously hurt. If you don't know how to use a tool properly, and, or which tool is apropriate for the job, you have no bussiness useing it.
    Whoa Charlie - a little harsh. I'd say that's on the edge of being a FLAME post, and those aren't taken well here.

    The OP is looking for our help, so he can learn which tool is the best for the job.

    I crosscut 2x4's on my 21829 using a crosscut sled, unless I'm just trimming a little off the end, then I use a circular saw or compound miter saw as has been mentioned.

    To use a crosscut sled on the 21829, you need to add a miter track that can be aligned to the blade - the BT3 Miter Slot Table (MST) can be used, or you can make your own.

    To use a crosscut sled to cut short lengths (I don't go less than 1 ft off an 8 footer), you need a sled that lets you have extra width on the long side - the side piece on my sled is ~4ft long. This gets the workpiece above the saw's table, removing friction from the equation.
    Bill in Buena Park

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    • Charlie
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      • Jul 2009
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      #17
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      Last edited by Charlie; 10-24-2009, 09:56 AM.

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      • Stytooner
        Roll Tide RIP Lee
        • Dec 2002
        • 4301
        • Robertsdale, AL, USA.
        • BT3100

        #18
        Charlie, you are making some pretty big assumptions there about the OP and what you are saying or suggesting can be done better with just a hint of tact. I noticed that you edit most of your posts on here, but in my opinion, you should continue to edit until you have something non negative to say.
        Civil comments, direction and useful suggestions on how to to a particular job correctly are my impressions on what Q&A threads are about here and what the OP was looking for.
        That is why he is posting, to get answers on how to do it properly and safely.
        Since you obviously know how to use a saw safely, why not relay some of the tips you have picked up over the years? It's that kind of spirit that makes this a great forum.

        I can assist you with that editing thing if you need some help with it. Not all of us know everything and it's no demerit here to admit that.
        Lee

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        • Charlie
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          #19
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          Last edited by Charlie; 10-24-2009, 09:57 AM.

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          • pelligrini
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 4217
            • Fort Worth, TX
            • Craftsman 21829

            #20
            Originally posted by Charlie
            So let me see if I got this correct, you assume that I should come in here and be a woodshop teacher / tool customer support for free ?
            Yep, that's the main point of this site. If you make a donation and become a paid member you'd wouldn't be doing it for free either.
            Erik

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            • Charlie
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              • Jul 2009
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              #21
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              Last edited by Charlie; 10-24-2009, 09:57 AM.

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              • Garasaki
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                • Sep 2006
                • 550

                #22
                Originally posted by Charlie
                So let me see if I got this correct, you assume that I should come in here and be a woodshop teacher / tool customer support for free ?

                Wait wait wait

                Are you asking us to pay you for posting here?!!!?

                I've been a member on a loooooooot of forums over the years, and you are the first person who's EVER suggested they be paid for their posts!!!
                -John

                "Look, I can't surrender without orders. I mean they emphasized that to me particularly. I don't know exactly why. The guy said "Blake, never surrender without checking"
                -Henry Blake

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                • Charlie
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                  #23
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                  Last edited by Charlie; 10-24-2009, 09:57 AM.

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                  • Mr__Bill
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2096
                    • Tacoma, WA
                    • BT3000

                    #24
                    Hey guys, give Charlie a break. He is from North Dakota and there are not a lot of people there. He probably is not used to playing in the sandbox with other folk. Lets just accept him as comic relief and let his comments serve as a counterpoint to the very good advice given here. By having the far end of the negative spectrum represented it makes everyone else look so much more positive.


                    Bill

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                    • Charlie
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                      #25
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                      Last edited by Charlie; 10-24-2009, 09:58 AM.

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                      • Garasaki
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 550

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Charlie
                        Well I could be saying that, or I could be saying that you people sure expect alot for nothing. Or I could be saying all of the above.
                        So are you saying, if we don't pay you, you'll stop posting?
                        -John

                        "Look, I can't surrender without orders. I mean they emphasized that to me particularly. I don't know exactly why. The guy said "Blake, never surrender without checking"
                        -Henry Blake

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                        • cgallery
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                          • Sep 2004
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                          • Milwaukee, WI
                          • BT3K

                          #27
                          I'll bet there are some users here that would pay me for NOT posting.

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                          • Charlie
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                            #28
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                            Last edited by Charlie; 10-24-2009, 09:58 AM.

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                            • Stytooner
                              Roll Tide RIP Lee
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 4301
                              • Robertsdale, AL, USA.
                              • BT3100

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Charlie
                              So let me see if I got this correct, you assume that I should come in here and be a woodshop teacher / tool customer support / tool sales for free ?
                              That ain't what I said, Charlie. Civil would be a good starting point. It's okay to have a differing opinion, but it isn't okay to belittle someone that asks a reasonable question. It's okay to vent sometimes and be the bearer of bad tidings at times. Your posts need not smell like lilacs or daffodils, but they do need a civil underpinning. Just take it for what it's worth.
                              I know there has to be some positive things happening with you. I look forward to one day reading about some of those.
                              Lee

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                              • crokett
                                The Full Monte
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 10627
                                • Mebane, NC, USA.
                                • Ryobi BT3000

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Charlie
                                So let me see if I got this correct, you assume that I should come in here and be a woodshop teacher / tool customer support / tool sales for free ?
                                Charlie, this isn't an attack, this is a serious question. This site and forum exist to provide members a place to talk about woodworking and home improvement and trade tips/tricks/etc. And yes, it is for free, unless you choose to donate to support it. The knowledge and community I get here is worth far more to me than the money I donate each year.

                                So since the site exists for the purpose of members being woodshop teachers, for free, if you don't want to do that then why are you a member here? I'm not saying we don't want you here, it sounds like you have a lot of knowledge to share. I'm asking if you don't want to share it, why are you here? This site exists to share woodworking knowledge. I would also rather that the OP ask the question he did. That way we can tell him the safe way to do something so he doesn't get hurt, not belittle him for asking.
                                David

                                The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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