BT-3100 Router Table Dust Problem

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  • TP1
    Forum Newbie
    • Jul 2009
    • 7

    #1

    BT-3100 Router Table Dust Problem

    Hi everyone,

    I am new to the BT-3100 and this forum. I love the table saw system -it is a wonderful all round package for my needs. However, I was wondering whether anyone has been able to get effective dust extraction happening with the accessory router table.

    I have below the table extraction sorted with the Ryobi router's own extraction port, but what about the bulk of the dust above the table?

    Is the shop vac supposed to be connected to the clear plastic guard or is their another solution?

    Many thanks for any help you can provide.

    Tasso
  • Black wallnut
    cycling to health
    • Jan 2003
    • 5513
    • Ellensburg, Wa, USA.
    • BT3k 1999

    #2
    Welcome to the forum! Yes you can attach a shop vac hose to the top of the router kits bit guard. Usefulness is not something that I'd be able to discuss as I've never tried it. When I have used a router mounted in the acc table I used a horse hair broom for dust control, that is to say I let them fall where they may and cleaned them up later.
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    • pelligrini
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 4217
      • Fort Worth, TX
      • Craftsman 21829

      #3
      I tried my shop vac connected to the tube, but I didn't like it much. I really didn't pay too much attention to the collection though. It worked OK, from what I remember.

      I really didn't like the stock fence. I built a simple MDF fence that used one of these for top collection. http://www.woodcraft.com/product.asp...FamilyID=20106 I've haven't given too much thought to below table collection, most all my cutting gets done outside.
      Erik

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      • dbhost
        Slow and steady
        • Apr 2008
        • 9546
        • League City, Texas
        • Ryobi BT3100

        #4
        The tube is designed the way it is in order to accommodate a Shop Vac 2.5" hose. Extraction is okay. I am not super crazy about dust collection through mine, but it is acceptable.
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        • TP1
          Forum Newbie
          • Jul 2009
          • 7

          #5
          Thanks guys, it is winter in Australia and i will mostly be doing woodwork indoors, hence the need for dust extraction. I'll give the shop vac a go but it doesn't look as if it is going to be as good as a dedcated dust extraction port like the one pelligrini pointed out.

          I guess making your own is a cheaper option but I did see this one as well:

          http://www.woodhaven.com/ProductDetail.asp?Id=1633

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          • JR
            The Full Monte
            • Feb 2004
            • 5636
            • Eugene, OR
            • BT3000

            #6
            Welcome aboard, TP1!

            I used the plastic tube in the accy kit for quite some time. I'd rate it a "adequate". The big hang up IMHO is that the tube needed to be mounted and set up every time you want to use it. Even then it tends to be kind of hinky in that it wants to move around. That can be kind of unnerving with your hands next to bit spinning at 20Krpm!

            I have since made a purpose-built fence and am much happier. My personal recommendation is to think in terms of a fence that clamps down on the rails, as opposed to attaching to the rip fence. I found that my router fence would tend to rise up and otherwise flop around when attached to the rip fence. Just a few days ago I modified my fence with a new bottom plate that cinches down on the rails.

            Hope this helps.

            JR
            JR

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            • Tom Miller
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2003
              • 2507
              • Twin Cities, MN
              • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

              #7
              Out of the million things I could think to spend $150 on, a router fence isn't one of them. They're just too easy to make yourself, and better yet, make just how you want. Also, you can start out with a very simple design (think 2x4 and two c-clamps), and then upgrade as you like. For the DC, check out Woodcraft or Rockler (or others) for fittings made purposely for attaching DC hose to a fence.

              Regards,
              Tom

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              • JR
                The Full Monte
                • Feb 2004
                • 5636
                • Eugene, OR
                • BT3000

                #8
                Originally posted by Tom Miller
                For the DC, check out Woodcraft or Rockler (or others) for fittings made purposely for attaching DC hose to a fence.
                Good point, Tom. I found whatever store-boought parts I have in my setup on sale at different times. They're just a few bucks and make a big difference.

                JR
                JR

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                • luteman
                  Established Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 145
                  • Northern Michigan
                  • BT3100-1

                  #9
                  I have the Freud router fence with its' micro adjusts. I drilled and threaded two holes in the acc table for the mounting posts which were supplied with the Freud. Works great!

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                  • TP1
                    Forum Newbie
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 7

                    #10
                    Originally posted by luteman
                    I have the Freud router fence with its' micro adjusts. I drilled and threaded two holes in the acc table for the mounting posts which were supplied with the Freud. Works great!
                    I haven't seen the Freud before - it looks interesting. I'll mess around with a DIY attempt first and if I get too frustrated, the Freud could be on the cards.

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                    • Bill in Buena Park
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 1867
                      • Buena Park, CA
                      • CM 21829

                      #11
                      Tasso,
                      Like others, I'd used the bit guard/dust tube with my shopvac and over time did not like its fit to the fence and that it moves.

                      When I needed to replace my router fence recently, I made something very simple and added dust extraction, as shown here:

                      http://www.bt3central.com/showthread...elamine+fences

                      Welcome, and enjoy the forum!
                      Bill in Buena Park

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