Rip Fence Perpendicularity

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  • kramca
    Handtools only
    • Jul 2003
    • 3
    • .

    Rip Fence Perpendicularity

    I got one of those Wixley digital angle meters and checked my blade's 90 degree reading and it was very close using the scale on the saw....within a few thousandths.

    (Actually got the gauge after some less than perfect 45 degree cuts...despite using a drafting triangle and squatting and squinting)

    Put it on the rip fence and it was .6 tilting in toward the blade.

    Aside from putting a piece of paper under one of the leftmost black plastic piece (with screw for lateral adjustment under the fence), does anyone know of a way to adjust the rip fence to be a true 90 ?
  • RayintheUK
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2003
    • 1792
    • Crowborough, East Sussex, United Kingdom.
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #2
    Does this .6 error occur when the fence is both locked and free, or just when it's locked?

    Ray
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    • cgallery
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2004
      • 4503
      • Milwaukee, WI
      • BT3K

      #3
      I had the same problem at once (I think a number of people here have), and I think this has been covered in Loring's FAQ (ask him for the FAQ if you haven't already). BUT...

      I had to disassemble the fence and file the top of the front head where the aluminum fence attaches. The paint buildup there prevents the aluminum fence from sitting flat.

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      • LCHIEN
        Internet Fact Checker
        • Dec 2002
        • 21082
        • Katy, TX, USA.
        • BT3000 vintage 1999

        #4
        Things that can go wrong with the rip fence (excerpted from the BT3 FAQ)

        The front mechanism rides up on the rail rather than clamping to it. This is often due to
        someone waxing the rail thinking it will slide better but it just makes it difficult for the clamp
        mechanism to grab the rail. If waxed, clean the rail with mineral spirits or paint thinner until
        the wax is gone. Some have suggested roughing up the rail ever so slightly with fine
        sandpaper so it’s not so smooth.

        The rip fence is not perpendicular to the table surface - see the above, one side of the front
        mechanism has ridden up.

        The rear part of the fence is moving. The hook device is not grabbing the lip of the rear rail.
        There’s an adjustment screw that sets how tightly the rear lock engages. Maybe the rear rail is
        not installed properly. Sometimes the pin hinging the rear clamp is broken or lost.
        Replacements can be bought from Ryobi.

        The rip fence is hitting the table top and won’t slide over. Installing the rear rail upside down
        usually causes this.

        The fence won’t move. Clean the saw dust from the front and rear rails. Make sure the roller
        riding on the back rail is turning, it may need cleaning or lubrication.

        Other fence problems: If the fence won’t adjust square to the blade, you may need to enlarge the
        holes the allen screws set in just a tiny bit. If the front rail handle assembly is sitting flat on the
        front rail, but the rip fence is not perpendicular to the table, you may need to deburr the holes the
        two allen screws set in, so that they sit flat.


        Loring in Katy, TX USA
        If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
        BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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        • pelligrini
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2007
          • 4217
          • Fort Worth, TX
          • Craftsman 21829

          #5
          I've have fixed two fences that were slightly off by filing the area that cgallery mentioned. One was my 21829 fence and the other was a BT fence I got from here or ebay. There's a couple threads about the solution in here somewhere.
          Erik

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          • kramca
            Handtools only
            • Jul 2003
            • 3
            • .

            #6
            Thanks

            I have two rip fences for this saw.....and both, when tightened, go to .6 off from ninety....both tip in every so slightly....

            I will read over the suggestions in the post from Loring and see if anything gets cleared up....

            Input is appreciated.

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            • LCHIEN
              Internet Fact Checker
              • Dec 2002
              • 21082
              • Katy, TX, USA.
              • BT3000 vintage 1999

              #7
              Another suggestion:
              Take your wixey angle gauge and measure the table top relative to the front rail top.
              They should be exactly parallel (relative angle zero degrees)
              If for some reason the rail is mounted on a slant that will put the rip fence off. could be as simple as slop in the mounting t-nut hardware that mounts the rail to the table.
              Loring in Katy, TX USA
              If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
              BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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              • kramca
                Handtools only
                • Jul 2003
                • 3
                • .

                #8
                good idea to try the gauge.

                The front rail is off .1 from the table top.....however, it is out of parallel ever so slightly the wrong way....that is, if I were to tweak the rail to parallel, it would logically make the fence tip in even more.

                This is probably hair splitting as my rips for all intents and purposes have been fine.....if it tilts in a bit, on most stock it tilts uniformly the full run of the fence.

                Using a tenon jig, etc. I would be using a triangle, or now this digital gauge to confirm that I
                am at 90 and would be compensating in some way to be square using a taller fence.

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                • wbsettle
                  Forum Newbie
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 92
                  • Wilmington, NC
                  • BT3100

                  #9
                  Check out this thread. It includes photos of the area to be deburred. I ordered a second fence under warranty when I discovered mine wouldn't sit perpendicular. Replacement was also skewed. A few minutes with a metal file and you should be fine.

                  -Brent

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