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  • Hobiedog
    Forum Newbie
    • Sep 2007
    • 15

    #1

    Crosscutting >18"

    I've had my BT3000 since ~1995, but never needed to crosscut anything more than 18". What have you guys done in this case?

    Thanks,

    JT
  • ragswl4
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 1559
    • Winchester, Ca
    • C-Man 22114

    #2
    Originally posted by Hobiedog
    I've had my BT3000 since ~1995, but never needed to crosscut anything more than 18". What have you guys done in this case?

    Thanks,

    JT
    I use an edge guide, like this one: http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...r=edge%20guide
    and a circular saw. Make sure to support the wood on both sides of the cut and tape the cut line with painter's or masking tape to reduce tear out.
    RAGS
    Raggy and Me in San Felipe
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    • LCHIEN
      Super Moderator
      • Dec 2002
      • 21978
      • Katy, TX, USA.
      • BT3000 vintage 1999

      #3
      If it has a square end and the crosscut is not too long, I use the rip fence.

      The BT3 FAQ lists some ways of making the std crosscut width a few inches larger.
      Loring in Katy, TX USA
      If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
      BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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      • pecker
        Established Member
        • Jun 2003
        • 388
        • .

        #4
        I recently had to square up some plywood drawer bottoms that would be 22" wide. I used a board, or a stick, really, about 3/4" x 1" x 24", and clamped it to the front edge of SMT usin 1" C-clamps. This became the miter fence.

        I squared the fence to the blade using a large drafting triangle. It worked great, and the small 1" C-clamps, with the tightening lever on the top side, allowed the SMT to make the entire crosscut. If you used larger clamps, they would hit the fence rail before the cut was finished.
        Last edited by pecker; 09-16-2007, 11:47 AM. Reason: added info

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        • gary
          Senior Member
          • May 2004
          • 893
          • Versailles, KY, USA.

          #5
          I have a big crosscut sled I made for my BT3100 - lets me cut up to 26" so I can make cabinets if I need to. It's one heavy sucker!
          Gary

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          • Thom2
            Resident BT3Central Research Ass.
            • Jan 2003
            • 1786
            • Stevens, PA, USA.
            • Craftsman 22124

            #6
            I followed in Lee's footsteps ...

            Several years ago Lee Styron had drilled a hole in the SMT as an auxiliary location for the fence pivot. IIRC, this mod gave about 22" or so of crosscut capability.

            I can't check for sure as the BT has been sold
            If it ain't broke.. don't fix it!!!... but you can always 'hop it up'
            **one and only purchaser of a BT3C official thong**

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            • Hobiedog
              Forum Newbie
              • Sep 2007
              • 15

              #7
              Looking at the options

              I ‘ve thought about one of those clamping guides too. I am interested in the other options and have a few questions for you guys.

              I recall that using the fence when crosscutting is a little risky, but I can’t remember why. However I don’t see a problem if the crosscut piece is at least square, or the cut/fence edges are longer than the fence guided edge.

              Regarding the front-edge miter fence SMT method, at least on my saw it looks like that’d gain three inches or so, allowing for ~1” fence and depending on the blade height.

              Gary, how did you guide our crosscut sled? I have only one miter slot table and since the slots are fairly close together, would that provide sufficient alignment?

              Thanks for all of the recommendations. I'll lookup the FAQs as well.

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              • gary
                Senior Member
                • May 2004
                • 893
                • Versailles, KY, USA.

                #8
                Originally posted by Hobiedog
                Gary, how did you guide our crosscut sled? I have only one miter slot table and since the slots are fairly close together, would that provide sufficient alignment?
                I have two miter slot tables on my saw. I'm not sure it would be stable enough without one on each side of the blade.
                Gary

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                • pecker
                  Established Member
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 388
                  • .

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hobiedog
                  Regarding the front-edge miter fence SMT method, at least on my saw it looks like that’d gain three inches or so, allowing for ~1” fence and depending on the blade height.
                  You can gain another inch or so by lowering the blade all the way, positioning your stock, then raising the spinning blade up into the wood. Then push the SMT to complete the cut.

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                  • Sid
                    Established Member
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 139
                    • Bloomington, IL, USA.
                    • Craftsman 22124

                    #10
                    A trick I read years ago, probably on the old Ryobi forum: Remove the whole SMT assembly from the rails and reverse it end-for-end, so the overhang is now on the rear of the saw. The workpiece is held against the miter gauge as usual, but now the gauge goes past the blade ahead of the workpiece, just guiding it, not pushing it. You gain a few inches, more as the blade is set higher.

                    Sid

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                    • Sawduster
                      Established Member
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 342
                      • Cedar Park, TX, USA.

                      #11
                      I'll generally rough cut oversized by hand, then use a router with a flush cutting bit guided by a straight piece of stock clamped to the workpiece.
                      Jerry

                      \"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.\"
                      ~ Thomas Paine ~





                      http://www.sawdustersplace.com

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                      • Cabotcat
                        Forum Newbie
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 10
                        • Calvert City, KY, USA.

                        #12
                        Edge guide all the way. I have an excellent Rigid circular saw with an excellent blade. It cuts as well as any saw I have used.

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                        • dkerfoot
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 1094
                          • Holland, Michigan
                          • Craftsman 21829

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Thom2
                          Several years ago Lee Styron had drilled a hole in the SMT as an auxiliary location for the fence pivot. IIRC, this mod gave about 22" or so of crosscut capability.
                          I just found out about another "improvement" for the 21829! It has the second hole for extended crosscutting that Thom2 is describing. It also has a 2nd flip-up stop on the other side for easy zero refernce. Capacity is about 21 1/2" with the blade fully raised.

                          I knew about it, but didn't realize it wasn't "stock" on the BT3's.

                          I'd also not be concerned about using the rip-fence for that deep a piece.

                          Otherwise I have a home made edge guide similar to this: http://members.aol.com/woodmiser1/sawbd.htm

                          The only difference is mine has two sides - one for my circular saw and the other for my 3/4" plywood router bit - the one I most often use for dados.

                          By far the most useful jig I have ever made. Clamp it right up to the cut-line and rip away. Before I bought my table saw, I built a large (80"x48'x24") pantry cabinet using nothing but that guide, a router and a circular saw.
                          Doug Kerfoot
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