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  • Ed62
    The Full Monte
    • Oct 2006
    • 6022
    • NW Indiana
    • BT3K

    Router safety on the BT3*

    OK, if I did it, someone else might do it too. I had the router mounted on the BT3K, and was working with it when I needed to make an adjustment. Unplugged the router, which was plugged into the outlet on the BT3K to make it easy to turn on and off. After maiking the adjustment, I plugged the router back in.........or so I thought. When I turned the router back on, it didn't go on, but the table saw did! It doesn't seem like you could possibly grab the small cord for the table saw instead of the long cord for the router to plug in, but that's exactly what I did. Luckily, the blade was lowered, the blade guard was on, and there wasn't anything else on the table except the piece I was working on. So be careful. It easily could have been an accident.

    Ed
    Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

    For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/
  • LCHIEN
    Internet Fact Checker
    • Dec 2002
    • 21007
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #2
    I did that sort of. Router plugged into the saw ouotlet. But on final use I turned off the power at the router instead of at the saw switch. Thus leaving the saw switch in the "on" position. Later I plugged in the saw cord to the outlet and it started. Unfortunately I had a 6' 1x6 piece of wood lying over the blade. There was a groove down the wood where the blade bit into it and accelerated it like a rail gun into the bookcase. That "spear" left a dent to this day I have as a reminder. Fortunately I was not standing in the way.
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
    BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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    • big tim
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 546
      • Scarborough, Toronto,Canada
      • SawStop PCS

      #3
      Been there, done that, fortunately without any bad aftereffects.
      I'm planning to wire a small light to the outlet to identify that the switch is in the on position. Just haven't figured out yet where to mount the light so it's not in the way, yet shows readily that it's on.

      Tim
      Sometimes my mind wanders. It's always come back though......sofar!

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      • bigfoot
        Forum Newbie
        • Sep 2006
        • 86

        #4
        Logic, safety, and table space would dictate to lower the saw bladfe before using the router.... Maybe that's why it's my S.O.P.

        Does make me think of an extra safety measure I will impliment at my place. Red electricians tape wrapped on the short saw plug.
        The voices made me do it.

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        • cgallery
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2004
          • 4503
          • Milwaukee, WI
          • BT3K

          #5
          I was forever forgetting to switch plugs when I wanted to switch from router to table saw and back. After at least ten IPU's (Incorrect Power Ups), I bought a separate power switch for the router and haven't looked back.

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          • Peter59T
            Forum Newbie
            • Apr 2006
            • 24
            • 3100

            #6
            You are not alone

            Only a day or two after building my router table add-on, I started doing the same thing. Turning on, turning off, plugging in, plugging out, and so on. Going back and forth.

            My only saving grace is that I have a lot of respect for the table saw (as in a bit scared of) and (usually) lower it into to the table when I am done cutting. Scared me to death when the saw started though.

            Some little light thingie is a good idea. If you come up with a clever solution, please share.

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            • Lonnie in Orlando
              Senior Member
              • May 2003
              • 649
              • Orlando, FL, USA.
              • BT3000

              #7
              It's scared me, too. Either the router is plugged in when I turn on the saw, or the saw is plugged in when I turn on the router. Just waiting to plug the router in for freehand work when the switch is still turned on.

              I made a tag for the router cord today at Sign Builder http://www.stclaire.com/safety_sign_.../ssb-panel.php

              I have attached the file "Router Table safety tag.pdf". Cut off unneeded portions. Print as multiple images to reduce the size. Here is how it looks after cutting ...

              - Lonnie
              Attached Files
              OLD STUFF ... houses, furniture, cars, wine ... I love it all

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              • Ed62
                The Full Monte
                • Oct 2006
                • 6022
                • NW Indiana
                • BT3K

                #8
                Aha! It just came to me! I think I'll put a small keychain or something in the hole of the prong on the plug I'm not using at the time. It could stay there until I switch operations. Then it can be easily transferrerd to the other plug. No chance to plug in the wrong thing that way.

                Ed
                Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

                For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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                • LCHIEN
                  Internet Fact Checker
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 21007
                  • Katy, TX, USA.
                  • BT3000 vintage 1999

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ed62
                  Aha! It just came to me! I think I'll put a small keychain or something in the hole of the prong on the plug I'm not using at the time. It could stay there until I switch operations. Then it can be easily transferrerd to the other plug. No chance to plug in the wrong thing that way.

                  Ed
                  In my case the problem was not plugging the wrong thing in, it was that I had two switches for the router and did not have the force of habit to use the same one every time leading to some uncertainty of which was on. When I plugged the saw back in it had only the one switch and happened that time to be on.

                  I resolved not to use the saw outlet/switch for the router anymore.
                  I have since pretty much gone to using a stand-alone router table.
                  Loring in Katy, TX USA
                  If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                  BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                  • Ed62
                    The Full Monte
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 6022
                    • NW Indiana
                    • BT3K

                    #10
                    Originally posted by LCHIEN
                    I have since pretty much gone to using a stand-alone router table.
                    I expect that will happen for me too, in time.

                    Ed
                    Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

                    For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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                    • jsnell
                      Handtools only
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 3

                      #11
                      Plug lock

                      I just (finally) mounted my router. I was worried that I'd get confused and plug the wrong cord in so I put a plug lock on the cord I wasn't using. I don't remember where I got the one I am using but this one is similar. http://www.familysafemedia.com/power...plug_lock.html

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                      • crokett
                        The Full Monte
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 10627
                        • Mebane, NC, USA.
                        • Ryobi BT3000

                        #12
                        I marked my router power cord with white duct tape. Come to think of it, I've since mounted a different router in the acc. table. I should mark the new one.
                        David

                        The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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                        • Ed62
                          The Full Monte
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 6022
                          • NW Indiana
                          • BT3K

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jsnell
                          I just (finally) mounted my router. I was worried that I'd get confused and plug the wrong cord in so I put a plug lock on the cord I wasn't using. I don't remember where I got the one I am using but this one is similar. http://www.familysafemedia.com/power...plug_lock.html
                          I'm using a twist tie that comes on a loaf of bread. It threads right through the holes on the prongs of the plug. Works great, and the price is right.

                          Ed
                          Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

                          For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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