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  • kmk
    Established Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 415
    • .Portland, Oregon
    • BT3100-1

    #1

    Wide table kit usage

    I just installed extra set of rails on BT3100.

    In fact, I don't need that much (24" + 41" ?) support on the right side. Instead I'd like to add about 15" support on the left and 26" on the right. How would you go about doing that? Would you just adjust the long rails or cut them and install on both sides? What would you do about the scale on the main rails if you adjust the long rails to get 15" on left and 26" on right?

    I'm looking for ideas...
  • RodKirby
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2002
    • 3136
    • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
    • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

    #2
    Forget the scale (most of us have), then a single join, rails positioned where you want them.
    Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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    • maxparot
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2004
      • 1421
      • Mesa, Arizona, USA.
      • BT3100 w/ wide table kit

      #3
      Add on as much rail as you need and then remove the scale and replace it with a new one as needed.
      Opinions are like gas;
      I don't mind hearing it, but keep it to yourself if it stinks.

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      • kmk
        Established Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 415
        • .Portland, Oregon
        • BT3100-1

        #4
        Ok.. looks like I'm on right track for once I'd like to forget the scale but I think having it
        might be useful..

        If I peel off the old scale and replace it with new one, should I go for the
        scale on the right side only? if so, how would you position it?

        One more question... Any source for getting a (reusable?) scale?
        Last edited by kmk; 03-04-2006, 11:43 PM.

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        • jdschulteis
          Established Member
          • Mar 2003
          • 139
          • Muskego, Wisconsin, USA.
          • Ryobi BT3100

          #5
          Originally posted by kmk
          Ok.. looks like I'm on right track for once I'd like to forget the scale but I think having it
          might be useful..

          If I peel off the old scale and replace it with new one, should I go for the
          scale on the right side only? if so, how would you position it?

          One more question... Any source for getting a (reusable?) scale?
          I don't think they're reusable, but http://woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=432 might be what you're looking for.
          Jerry

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          • maxparot
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2004
            • 1421
            • Mesa, Arizona, USA.
            • BT3100 w/ wide table kit

            #6
            As Jerry notes they aren't really reusable.
            You can purchase self stick metal tapes. I got one that is 3/4" wide they are available in left hand and right hand read so you could set up a scale in both directions.
            Opinions are like gas;
            I don't mind hearing it, but keep it to yourself if it stinks.

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            • Black wallnut
              cycling to health
              • Jan 2003
              • 5513
              • Ellensburg, Wa, USA.
              • BT3k 1999

              #7
              The scale may or MAY not agree with your tape measure

              Which is why most forget it. Best results are when you use only one single measuing device per project. Or even none if you use a story stick.

              The wide rail kit includes a front and a back rail the same length as the rails supplied with the saw and hardware to butt join the rails together. Many users have cut their extended rails for a custom size. For a nice clean square cut you need look no farther than your BT3. The blades teeth are far harder than the aluminum rails; just cut slow and wear goggles as aluminum chips are sharper and harder than wood.
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              • just4funsies
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 843
                • Florida.
                • BT3000

                #8
                Woodcraft does indeed have 6ft. sticky-back tapes in either direction that will work perfectly. (I had no problem removing my old one and repositioning it with rubber cement, however.) That said, the rail rulers are NOT going to be perfect in any case. Blade runout and thickness of cut can cause small discrepancies. I trust it when "neighborhood" cuts are all that's required, but for precision cuts, use a tape and test cut, if necessary, for more accuracy. And that way, you can use the same tape for all measurements in the project, which is always a good habit.
                ...eight, nine, TEN! Yep! Still got all my fingers!

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                • kmk
                  Established Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 415
                  • .Portland, Oregon
                  • BT3100-1

                  #9
                  Is it safe to cut those rails using the stock blade? And, I will get good cut?

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                  • Rob R
                    Established Member
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 256
                    • West, Michigan.

                    #10
                    Originally posted by kmk
                    Is it safe to cut those rails using the stock blade? And, I will get good cut?

                    yes, yes. carbide is quite a bit tougher than alum.

                    rob

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                    • kmk
                      Established Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 415
                      • .Portland, Oregon
                      • BT3100-1

                      #11
                      I will give it a try tonight...

                      BTW. I'm sure this was asked before.. for the tabletop do you use melamine or some hardwood plywood? I'm thinking melamine...

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                      • Tom Miller
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 2507
                        • Twin Cities, MN
                        • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kmk
                        ... for the tabletop do you use melamine or some hardwood plywood? I'm thinking melamine...
                        Whatever you like. I've been using hardwood-veneered mdf, but the new top is going to be baltic birch. A couple coats of poly and then paste wax makes this as slick as ever.

                        Did you decide to cut it and make two joints? Is it too late to add my vote to NOT do this? The scale seems like a trivial thing compared to any possible weakening of the rails. If/when you modify your fence (to make it longer, or to make a sacrificial fence) it'll just throw the scale off again.

                        Regards,
                        Tom
                        Last edited by Tom Miller; 03-06-2006, 03:46 PM.

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                        • JimD
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 4187
                          • Lexington, SC.

                          #13
                          I used Melamine covered particle board. With a coat of wax, it is very slick. I have been using it for a year or more and it still looks almost like new. It is also pretty cheap. I added a few ribs underneith to keep it flat. I also incorporated a mount for a router so I can use it as a router table.

                          Jim

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                          • kmk
                            Established Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 415
                            • .Portland, Oregon
                            • BT3100-1

                            #14
                            I changed my mind and not going to cut the rails. I will have a new scale installed on the right side. I'm not going to trust it though...

                            On the tabletop, I think I'm going to go for melamine. I have spent too much already
                            on accessorizing my saw and I have to show some productivity now...

                            Thanks all for the ideas... I was wondering how the tabletop would stay flat.. thanks for the rib idea...

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                            • kmk
                              Established Member
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 415
                              • .Portland, Oregon
                              • BT3100-1

                              #15
                              Got 2'x5' baltic birch plywood at Rocker for $15. (50%). Almost same price
                              as melamine at HD. So, went for it...

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