TS3650 $75 no motor or fence, should I

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  • b75025
    Forum Newbie
    • Dec 2003
    • 66
    • McKinney, TX
    • Ryobi BT3100

    #16
    Originally posted by BrazosJake
    What Andrew said.

    If you're willing and able to wait for a deal on a motor and fence, it might be OK.

    To give you some idea, I went the budget, Frankensaw route for my TS, starting with an Emerson-built craftsman back in 2007 (though the motor was OK) for $100. This was upgraded with a Jet fence from eBay for $80 (2 weeks later, Lowes closed out the Delta Unifences then the Bies:-( . $100 for a Jessem Mitre Excel off of CL (best deal of the bunch!), $25 link belt from Woodcraft, $15 for the PALs alignment kit. Add in a thin-kerf WWII blade, and I'm into it for close to $400.

    I could have waited for a sale, or prowled CL, but I just don't have time, and every really good CL deal (except my mitre gauge) is gone before I see it. I also could have paid another $100+ for the Ridgid 3650, (my saw is almost identical to the old TS2400) though I have a way better mitre gauge and blade than the 3650 comes with.

    I didn't think it possible to pull 22 amps on a 110 circuit.
    Just for the record, here's a picture of the label on my Central Machinery 46813 table saw. No way to measure it, but the label says "Current: 22.2A!
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    "I see", said the blind man, so he picked up his hammer and saw.

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    • LCHIEN
      Super Moderator
      • Dec 2002
      • 22012
      • Katy, TX, USA.
      • BT3000 vintage 1999

      #17
      there's no limit to how many amps you can get with 110V, but you had better have good enough wiring and distribution and the proper circuit breaker.
      That said, you cannot get 22A sustained with a common residential circuit.
      Its much more cost effective to get the same amount of power from 220V and half the amps because of the smaller wiring and common connectors.

      There are NEMA specified 30A breakers and connectors that are for 110V; these are standard but not widely used meaning expensive and special order, and I would guess offhand you need 8 or 10 ga. wire, neither convenient (hard to handle) or cheap.


      OK, here's the plugs and sockets for 30A, 110-120VAC:
      120 Volts - 30 Amps

      Plug (top) -- NEMA L5-30P
      (Single plug) . . . . . US$30
      (10 - 24 plugs) . . . . . US$27 each

      (25+ plugs) . . . . . US$25 each
      Socket (Receptacle) (bottom) -- NEMA L5-30R

      (Single socket) . . . . . US$30
      (10 - 24 sockets) . . . . . US$27 each
      (25+ sockets) . . . . . US$25 each

      somewhere along the way companies have made higher amperage 110V equipment tan 15 or 20A. Just not that common anymore.
      Last edited by LCHIEN; 04-22-2010, 04:57 PM.
      Loring in Katy, TX USA
      If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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      • duncsuss
        Established Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 138

        #18
        Originally posted by LCHIEN
        ...
        (Single socket) . . . . . US$30
        ...
        That seems very expensive, Lowe's have both 30A and 50A outlets much cheaper than $30 ...

        Power Outlets at Lowes

        You're 100% right about working with 50A cabling being far from easy!

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        • LCHIEN
          Super Moderator
          • Dec 2002
          • 22012
          • Katy, TX, USA.
          • BT3000 vintage 1999

          #19
          Originally posted by duncsuss
          That seems very expensive, Lowe's have both 30A and 50A outlets much cheaper than $30 ...

          Power Outlets at Lowes

          You're 100% right about working with 50A cabling being far from easy!

          they have them for 220V appliaction, e.g. Nema 6
          but you won't find the 30-Amp 110V Nema 5-30 at Lowes.
          they are expensive because they are very low demand.

          Not that you couldn't cheat and use Nema 6 for 110V if you wanted...
          Last edited by LCHIEN; 04-22-2010, 09:43 PM.
          Loring in Katy, TX USA
          If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
          BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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