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  • jgscott987
    Established Member
    • Sep 2004
    • 287
    • Greensboro, NC, USA.
    • BT3100 +

    #16
    Originally posted by pacwind3
    I wish to heck that I could get a jig saw to work well for me. Granted, I have the cordless ryobi, but it seems like not matter what I do and no matter what blades I use, my cuts aren't straight up and down. They end up curving to the side. Drives me nuts. Is there a difference in the saws that keeps this from happening? or is it me?

    That typically results from pushing too hard / trying to saw too fast. Take it nice and slow and you should get better results.

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    • SARGE..g-47

      #17
      I have the 1587 and the major difference is the quick change blade on the 1590. There may be more I have over-looked,, but it takes me about 30 seconds to change blades which I do often. I suppose you could probably change them in under 10 seconds with the 1590?.. Someone that has used both might comment.

      If I were in the position.. I wouldn't hesitate to get another 1587. I don't mind the extra 20 seconds and regardless of which one.. you have the best jig-saw made IMO and that includes that greenie with the very high price tag. It might have better dust control.. but it ain't got better cutting control as I have used one.

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      • bthere
        Established Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 462
        • Alpharetta, GA

        #18
        As it happens, I have both the Bosch 1587 and 1590. I had gotten many years ago a Craftsman autoscroller jig saw and struggled with it over the years. I didn't use it much -- pretty much only for cuts that couldn't be done any other way.

        Well, I got lucky and got an excellent deal on the Bosch 1590 a couple of years back. I am sort of glad I used the Craftsman for all those years. When you make the change from an ok tool to a good tool, you can truly appreciate how much better the good tool is. Without that transition, I may have taken it for granted.

        A few months back, I was given a Bosch 1587 by a friend who was liquidating his possessions so he could travel the world. I must say that I like the feel of the 1587 a little better than the 1590. I am not sure I can tell a heck of a lot of difference between the 1587 and 1590.

        I do like the 1590 better for a few reasons:
        1) No tools required to change anything including base angle, flush cutting setting of the base, etc. The 1587 requires the use of a hex wrench which stores in a holder right on the cord. Not a big deal, but it is something that can get lost
        2) The blade change on the 1590 is very nice. Slide a lever and the blade is ejected. No need to touch a hot blade. To put a blade in, you just click it in and you done. The change mechanism isn't bad on the 1587, but it does a take a little bit of time.
        3) On the 1590, there are guide clamps that help secure the blade close to the work surface - a lot like the guides on a bandsaw. I am not sure I can tell how much they help to maintain a vertical cut, but they certainly make me think they are helping. I haven't seen this on any other jig saw.
        4) The variable speed limit control on the 1587 is on the trigger. On the 1590 it is on the body of the saw. I personally don't like the control on the trigger, mainly because of the feel. I suppose the control on the trigger might possibly be moved by accident, but I haven't had it happed to me with my 1587 since the detents on the knob make good, positive stops.
        5) The blower seems to be a bit more effective on the 1590. Might just be my particular saws.


        What I like better about th 1587:
        1) For me, it feels a little better in my hand. Even though it is about the same size, the 1590 feels a little bulkier and the handle angle is just a little different. I haven't noticed any difference in the ability to control the saws.
        2) I like the trigger lock on the 1587 a bit better. It is a button on the side of the handle. Technically, I should probably like the trigger lock on the 1590 better since it can be pressed in from either side of the saw and sits in front of the trigger where it is less likely to get accidentally engaged.
        3) The 1587 can use shorter blades. The shoe is closer to the body of the saw. The 1590 is a little farther away to make room for the blade guides.

        Sorry for the length of the post.

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        • Sawatzky
          Established Member
          • Apr 2005
          • 359
          • CA
          • Ridgid TS3650

          #19
          I got a Bosch 1587 for Christmas. I had a B&D that I paid $40.00 for, and I hated using it. It had plenty of power, but the footplate would never stay stright. The saw just did not feel sturdy. The Bosch is like no other jig saw. I did not know what the difference was between cheap and expensive jigs saws until I tried the Bosch. Now I am convinced that if you want a jig saw to cut accurate curves, you need a quality one. My dad has a Bosch and hasn't used his bandsaw in ten years because of the acuracay and ease of use of the Bosch.

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          • nothing
            Forum Newbie
            • Sep 2007
            • 55
            • Central MS
            • Delta 36-979 with 30" Biese

            #20
            I have the bosch 1587 also. I was going to get the 1590, but I picked up the 1587 for $79 shipped. Too good of a deal to pass up. I've been very happy with it. I think the only thing I don't like about it is the blade changes, but for what I paid I couldn't be happier.

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            • Woodwerker
              Established Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 490
              • .

              #21
              There are few products in any tool catagory today that people rave about as much as a bosch jig saw. I read all the hype and bought a 1587, what else can you say. Its great. Makes you better, and very few tools can hold that distinction...
              Every tool you own is broken, you just don't know it yet :-)

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              • herb fellows
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 1867
                • New York City
                • bt3100

                #22
                Originally posted by bthere
                As it happens, I have both the Bosch 1587 and 1590. I had gotten many years ago a Craftsman autoscroller jig saw and struggled with it over the years. I didn't use it much -- pretty much only for cuts that couldn't be done any other way.

                Well, I got lucky and got an excellent deal on the Bosch 1590 a couple of years back. I am sort of glad I used the Craftsman for all those years. When you make the change from an ok tool to a good tool, you can truly appreciate how much better the good tool is. Without that transition, I may have taken it for granted.

                A few months back, I was given a Bosch 1587 by a friend who was liquidating his possessions so he could travel the world. I must say that I like the feel of the 1587 a little better than the 1590. I am not sure I can tell a heck of a lot of difference between the 1587 and 1590.

                I do like the 1590 better for a few reasons:
                1) No tools required to change anything including base angle, flush cutting setting of the base, etc. The 1587 requires the use of a hex wrench which stores in a holder right on the cord. Not a big deal, but it is something that can get lost
                2) The blade change on the 1590 is very nice. Slide a lever and the blade is ejected. No need to touch a hot blade. To put a blade in, you just click it in and you done. The change mechanism isn't bad on the 1587, but it does a take a little bit of time.
                3) On the 1590, there are guide clamps that help secure the blade close to the work surface - a lot like the guides on a bandsaw. I am not sure I can tell how much they help to maintain a vertical cut, but they certainly make me think they are helping. I haven't seen this on any other jig saw.
                4) The variable speed limit control on the 1587 is on the trigger. On the 1590 it is on the body of the saw. I personally don't like the control on the trigger, mainly because of the feel. I suppose the control on the trigger might possibly be moved by accident, but I haven't had it happed to me with my 1587 since the detents on the knob make good, positive stops.
                5) The blower seems to be a bit more effective on the 1590. Might just be my particular saws.


                What I like better about th 1587:
                1) For me, it feels a little better in my hand. Even though it is about the same size, the 1590 feels a little bulkier and the handle angle is just a little different. I haven't noticed any difference in the ability to control the saws.
                2) I like the trigger lock on the 1587 a bit better. It is a button on the side of the handle. Technically, I should probably like the trigger lock on the 1590 better since it can be pressed in from either side of the saw and sits in front of the trigger where it is less likely to get accidentally engaged.
                3) The 1587 can use shorter blades. The shoe is closer to the body of the saw. The 1590 is a little farther away to make room for the blade guides.

                Sorry for the length of the post.
                Don't be sorry! That is exactly what we need more of, people willing to take the time to help someone else make a decision. I applaud your review!
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                • Al Garay
                  Forum Newbie
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 75
                  • Seattle, WA, USA.

                  #23
                  You can always pick up a 1587 or 1590 when Lowes has 20% off discount, which might still be going right now.

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                  • poolhound
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 3196
                    • Phoenix, AZ
                    • BT3100

                    #24
                    Got to use my new shiny 1590 today. The words knife and butter come to mind. Its so solid and feels really good in your hand. I can see my CS getting jealous as the 1590 will now be my tool of choice for rough cuts.
                    Jon

                    Phoenix AZ - It's a dry heat
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                    • annunaki
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 610
                      • White Springs, Florida
                      • 21829, BT3100, 2-BT3000(15amp)

                      #25
                      What about the 1591?

                      How does the 1591 compare to the 1590 & 1587?
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                      • annunaki
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 610
                        • White Springs, Florida
                        • 21829, BT3100, 2-BT3000(15amp)

                        #26
                        Factory Reconditioned

                        Saw a Bosch 1590 w/case etc. Factory Reconditioned for $119.95 + $7.95 S&H
                        total $128.90.
                        Can this be gotten cheaper elsewhere?
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                        • sweensdv
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 2871
                          • WI
                          • Baileigh TS-1040P-50

                          #27
                          Originally posted by annunaki
                          How does the 1591 compare to the 1590 & 1587?
                          Why not Google all three models and compare for yourself? Oh never mind, here I'll do it for you;

                          Bosch 1591

                          Bosch 1590

                          Bosch 1587

                          Freud FJ-85
                          Last edited by sweensdv; 04-06-2008, 01:16 PM. Reason: Added Freud Comparison As Thread Was Originally About The FJ-85
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                          • poolhound
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 3196
                            • Phoenix, AZ
                            • BT3100

                            #28
                            Originally posted by annunaki
                            Saw a Bosch 1590 w/case etc. Factory Reconditioned for $119.95 + $7.95 S&H
                            total $128.90.
                            Can this be gotten cheaper elsewhere?
                            I just got mine from Amazon for $135 for a new one. The price does fluctuate so keep you eyes open.
                            Jon

                            Phoenix AZ - It's a dry heat
                            ________________________________

                            We all make mistakes and I should know I've made enough of them
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                            • Hoover
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 1273
                              • USA.

                              #29
                              What really helps in using the jigsaw is buying good blades. The Bosch progressor blades seem to work the best for me. Try a pack of these blades before giving up on your saw.
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                              • footprintsinconc
                                Veteran Member
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 1759
                                • Roseville (Sacramento), CA
                                • BT3100

                                #30
                                bthere, thanks for the detailed review. its really helpfull to see everything numerated the way you layed out your thoughts.

                                i need to save up to buy myself one of these bosch jigsaws. anyone want to buy my skils jig saw (a trusted name in tools ), you can count on a cut every time (not sure about the accuracy).
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