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Got it. Thanks.
EdDo you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained
For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/Comment
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I suppose we should all be thankful that the automobile industry doesn't respond to "user feedback" in the same way!
We used to say that if the automobile followed the same evolution as the personal computer, you could buy a Rolls-Royce for $1,000, but that it would only last four years, at which such time it would blow up and kill all the passengers!
What I get sick of is not only the fact that the user interface changes so drastically, but that it obsoletes much of the software that one might use.
When I got my laptop four years ago, it had "Vista"... and I quickly found that I could no longer use my very expensive Microsoft Office 1997 "Professional" on it. It's several $Hundred to buy the new version. In addition, I could no longer use several other older programs...all of which work fine for my use, but now deemed obsolete by the Microsoft design team. When they added the first Service Pack, that also knocked out my little TV- USB plug-in module, which allowed me to watch and record TV to my CDR. Absolutely no service provided by MS, that I could find.
It's sort of like owning a 2000 automobile and now finding that they've changed the gas, so it disables your engine on the first fill up.
There ought to be a law!
CWSThink it Through Before You Do!Comment
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Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained
For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/Comment
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Have to remember that technology evolves at a much faster rate than almost anything else. A 1997 version of anything is absolutely ancient for a computer with 2008 specs. There's more computing power in an iPod than in the Space Shuttle. My kids have memory cards in their toy cameras with more memory than what calculated the moon landing.I suppose we should all be thankful that the automobile industry doesn't respond to "user feedback" in the same way!
We used to say that if the automobile followed the same evolution as the personal computer, you could buy a Rolls-Royce for $1,000, but that it would only last four years, at which such time it would blow up and kill all the passengers!
What I get sick of is not only the fact that the user interface changes so drastically, but that it obsoletes much of the software that one might use.
When I got my laptop four years ago, it had "Vista"... and I quickly found that I could no longer use my very expensive Microsoft Office 1997 "Professional" on it. It's several $Hundred to buy the new version. In addition, I could no longer use several other older programs...all of which work fine for my use, but now deemed obsolete by the Microsoft design team. When they added the first Service Pack, that also knocked out my little TV- USB plug-in module, which allowed me to watch and record TV to my CDR. Absolutely no service provided by MS, that I could find.
It's sort of like owning a 2000 automobile and now finding that they've changed the gas, so it disables your engine on the first fill up.
There ought to be a law!
CWS
You can drive your 2000 car on these roads, you'll just get passed by the kids on skateboards.Comment
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I disagree somewhat. Yes we have more power then what they did for the mars mission, but hardware isn't the same as software, nor do I see kids passing used vehicles on skateboards (not good comparisons). Software that does the same thing isn't really any faster or slower. The only reasons to upgrade are security issues and features needed/wanted. I still use mostly the same features I did in my current wordprocessing software, that I did in Wordperfect 1.0.
The software you see evolving to keep up with computers, is most often, video game software. It uses the most out of your hardware, in general (most people don't do full cad or heavy graphics programs like movie special effects).She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.Comment
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Man, I agree. Two or three years after switching from 2003 to 2007 Word and Excel I am still frequently looking for the stuff in 2007 I know you must be able to do and knew exactly where to look in 2003 (and other versions back to pre-'97). I totally don't "get" the 2007 interface.
even a legacy toolbar would be nice but leaves you more bewildered than ever trying to show a co-worker what to do on his interface.
Loring in Katy, TX USA
If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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I agree, and for experienced users, they create more work to access the same commands. But there was some logic in what they did. Take a look at the MS blog explaining it:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/jensenh/arch...28/563007.aspx
It's the first of many parts (and I never read all of them), but it shows their thinking. For a novice user, the new interface might be better, and it was heavily researched. I just wish they had an option to revert to the old style (and looked in vain for that option when office 2007 was installed on my work PC)
JimComment
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I talked to one of my engineers who worked for awhile in the software industry. He disagreed too. But I got him thinking. I will talk to him again after he has had a chance to think it through. He could not articulate a defensible position initially.
We go through this a lot at work. 2003 versus 2007 is EXACTLY one of my main frustrations. What happens at work is whoever is championing the "new stuff" sets up classes and wants everybody to come. The problem I have is I use 10-20 different programs a week and the mix is different each week. By the time I use your program, I will have forgotten everything or almost everything from your training class. What I want are specific written instructions to do what I need to do. I can put those someplace and look at them when I need to complete the activity. Not practical for WORD, probably, but for small programs to do simple tasks it works well. Usually I don't get what I want. I think it's more fun to run the training than to sit in a cube and write instructions. It's also the same nonsense chatter each time. "This is SOOOO easy, look you just.....". It is if that is all you do. My other general comment is that well written software doesn't need training classes to do simple things.
If you want a really bad un-user friendly piece of software try SAP. I almost wish they would mess with the interface. It couldn't get much worse.
JimComment
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I've never used SAP, but I bet you've not had the pleasure of using an Oracle application. They needed to give us training on how to use the Oracle training application. There are classes we have to take yearly in the system, and it takes about a dozen mouse clicks to start a new class.
JimComment
Now I have an idea what I'm doing. Of course I'll learn the proper way to do it in time. Thanks very much for a great tip.
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