Prop Balancer for giant scale RC airplanes

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  • sscherin
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2003
    • 772
    • Kennewick, WA, USA.

    #1

    Prop Balancer for giant scale RC airplanes

    Thought I'd post this here since the small amount of MDF hardly qualifies it as a "Wood project"

    I had a little problem.. How do you balance a 24" 4 blade prop?

    I could have done the simple thing. Bought a regular size prop balancer and riged it up to hang off the edge of the table but no that wouldn't do..

    So with about $10 in parts, some scrap MDF and a little time at the lathe I came up with this.. Nothing more than a really big dubro type balancer.






    The wheels are CD-Rs I opened up the centers on to fit #608 roller skate bearings.. The Cd's are cut for a snug fit on the bearing then held on with a little CA. One is a Wii game the kids had scratched beyond repair.. It was my test piece before I "borrowed" a few CD-Rs from the teen basement dweller..

    The grease in the bearings gives them a bit of rolling resistance. I popped off the dust shields and washed the grease out with starting fluid (outside)
    Then I put on a little tri-flow oil to keep them turning smoothly.

    The prop rod is a piece of 5/32 music wire.. Not a great choice as it's not perfectly straight out of the bin.. It will be replaced with drill rod..

    I turned a pair of aluminum 60° cones to center the prop and they are retained by wheel collars..

    overall it works much better than expected..

    I plan to make a more durable version with wheels and body from sheet HDPE (AKA plastic cutting boards)
    William's Law--
    There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it
    cannot be solved by brute strength and ignorance.
  • jackellis
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2003
    • 2638
    • Tahoe City, CA, USA.
    • BT3100

    #2
    Three comments.

    First, an ingenious solution.

    Second, just how big are giant scale RC airplanes. The diameter of that prop looks to be 20 or 25 inches. The prop on my (full size, four seat) airplane is around 78 inches.

    Third, where do you fly them so I can avoid that airspace. It's bad enough sharing the sky with unmanned Global Hawks and Predators

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    • sscherin
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2003
      • 772
      • Kennewick, WA, USA.

      #3
      Giant scale is considered to be 1/4 scale or 80" wing and larger..

      That prop goes on my 1/5 scale p-51.. 85" wing span..
      William's Law--
      There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it
      cannot be solved by brute strength and ignorance.

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      • gsmittle
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2004
        • 2793
        • St. Louis, MO, USA.
        • BT 3100

        #4
        Originally posted by sscherin
        Giant scale is considered to be 1/4 scale or 80" wing and larger..

        That prop goes on my 1/5 scale p-51.. 85" wing span..
        Wow! That's almost big enough to sit in! How long did it take to build that rig?

        g.
        Smit

        "Be excellent to each other."
        Bill & Ted

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        • sscherin
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2003
          • 772
          • Kennewick, WA, USA.

          #5
          The balancer was only 4 or 5 hours (I'm slow) to build.

          The P-51 is a kit I've just started work on.. If I'm lucky I'll have it finished by next summer..

          The kit was made in the 80's and designed to use a 35cc gas engine on a belt reduction

          I'm converting to to run with a 3,500w gear reduction electric motor.

          The first step was to make the prop mount..
          The original setup had an integral pulley/spinner back plate the 4 blades and spinner bolt onto.

          Step 1 was to turn a new back plate for the blades and spinner to mount on that will fit the 10mm motor shaft..

          This was a square when I started


          Spinner fitted


          assemble the prop




          Mounted on the motor..



          The kit


          William's Law--
          There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it
          cannot be solved by brute strength and ignorance.

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          • gsmittle
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2004
            • 2793
            • St. Louis, MO, USA.
            • BT 3100

            #6
            That is impressive! We'll expect video of her maiden flight! Looks like a fun and demanding project.

            g.
            Smit

            "Be excellent to each other."
            Bill & Ted

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            • lrogers
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2002
              • 3853
              • Mobile, AL. USA.
              • BT3000

              #7
              VERY nice! As soon as I saw that prop hanging in the balancer, I knew it was a P-51 being built! Have you settled of the colors/markings yet?
              If things work out for me I may have to scale up your balancer to fit a 66" prop! Looking HARD at a Hawk or Challenger ultra light!
              Larry R. Rogers
              The Samurai Wood Butcher
              http://splash54.multiply.com
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              • sscherin
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2003
                • 772
                • Kennewick, WA, USA.

                #8
                Originally posted by lrogers
                VERY nice! As soon as I saw that prop hanging in the balancer, I knew it was a P-51 being built! Have you settled of the colors/markings yet?
                If things work out for me I may have to scale up your balancer to fit a 66" prop! Looking HARD at a Hawk or Challenger ultra light!

                if you do try a F696 flanged bearing..
                I haven't got my hands on one yet but it should be a perfect fit in a CD-rom without mods..
                15mm od to match the 15mm center on a cd plus a flange for easy alignment..

                I'd laminate 2 or 3 cd's pr bearing to hold the larger prop..
                William's Law--
                There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it
                cannot be solved by brute strength and ignorance.

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                • LCHIEN
                  Super Moderator
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 22011
                  • Katy, TX, USA.
                  • BT3000 vintage 1999

                  #9
                  How about a few of these instead of having to drill CDs?
                  Seems like keeping the bigger hole concentric when opening them up to the bearing O.D. would be critical.

                  from Rockler, under $2.00 ea

                  http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=30216&rrt=1

                  Loring in Katy, TX USA
                  If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                  BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                  • sscherin
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 772
                    • Kennewick, WA, USA.

                    #10
                    That would be perfect.. I was thinking of using roller blade wheels at one point but I didn't find a deal that good.
                    William's Law--
                    There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it
                    cannot be solved by brute strength and ignorance.

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                    • sscherin
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 772
                      • Kennewick, WA, USA.

                      #11
                      I made a bench mount and gave the setup a test run..
                      It's on a 8S (29v) 5,000mah pack with castle 110 HV ESC

                      I had to keep a foot on the workmate or it would pull it over..

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFfIObkc25w
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                      William's Law--
                      There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it
                      cannot be solved by brute strength and ignorance.

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