Online Plans CD

[gsmittle]

I did a search before posting, but haven't seen anything about this site: Ted's Woodworking Plans.

I ran across this site several months ago, forgot about it, then hit it again yesterday. AFAIK, the "three days only" limited-time offer was exactly the same then as it is now. I'm also leery of sites full of testimonials instead of facts. Also, I have no idea how he figures a CD of plans plus a free viewer, some online videos, and two self-published books is a "$497 value."

Is this dude on the up-and-up, or what?

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[Bruce Cohen]

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I just looked at it, save your money.

Bruce

[herb fellows]

Hmmmm.... I just used your link to the website and a message came up in big red letters:

'WARNING: THIS SITE HAS A POOR REPUTATION'

edit: This warning is from WOT, Web of Trust, a 'website checker' that I use. I've been using it for 5 months now, this is the first time I've seen that, not sure if it means its a problem computer wise (virus etc.) or as far as being shady or what. Time to do some research.

Being a bit virus shy, I immediately clicked off it before I looked to see who the warning was from.

I use Avira free and Super Anti ASpyware on this computer, but don't know if it came from them or ?????

Anyone else getting this message?

[cabinetman]

On one of the other WW'ng sites I visit, that site is spammed regularly by different screen names. There are several variations to the spam. It might appear in the introduction section with a question about finding a good site for plans. And then saying that a site was found...hyperlinked, and it looked great. Then asks if anyone has experience with them.

Or, when a legitimate question is posted about plans, a spammer will post..."Yeah, I found the greatest site"...with a hyperlink. This could be a set-up.

Or, a reply to plans, with a link as a signature.

More irritating than sand in your underwear.

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[Pappy]

Looks like a bunch of garbage to me, too.

Another site that was posted on herewas "Andy's ezwoodshop.com". Monthly 'newsletter' that started out with how bad most plans were and skipped essential steps then proceded to tell you about his methods you could download. One kit for design consisted of a plastic triangle and 3 sheets of graph paper. I have been deleting them but finally unsubscribed yesterday.

Way too many truely free plans out there to buy into something like this.

[gsmittle]

Just checked the site again today: the "limited time only" offer runs out three days from today, just like it would run out today three days ago.

It's obviously a scam, or at least not worth what he wants. Gotta admire the guy's hutzpah, though. After all, we'd save tons of money, time, and frustration if we'd just send him the low, low price right NOW!

C'Man, those just-registered-members-who-found-a-great-site frustrate the ##$%!!! out of me, too. Jeez, people, just tell me outright you're wasting my time!!!

Argh.

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[cabinetman]

On one of the other WW'ng sites I visit, that site is spammed regularly by different screen names. There are several variations to the spam. It might appear in the introduction section with a question about finding a good site for plans. And then saying that a site was found...hyperlinked, and it looked great. Then asks if anyone has experience with them.

Or, when a legitimate question is posted about plans, a spammer will post..."Yeah, I found the greatest site"...with a hyperlink. This could be a set-up.

Or, a reply to plans, with a link as a signature.

More irritating than sand in your underwear.

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Here's an example of a post from another forum:

Woodshop projects for the woodworker
I purchased this the other day and i found it so cool i thought i would share it. Its the No.1 woodworking site for woodworkers it has 16000 designs and plans with a super easy step by step instructions for all projects and the cost is so cheap, its great for a gift . Your sure to find a project ready and waiting for you, Anyway this is where i found it: http://www.woodshopprojectsdiy.com

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[gsmittle]

Here's an example of a post from another forum:

Woodshop projects for the woodworker
I purchased this the other day and i found it so cool i thought i would share it. Its the No.1 woodworking site for woodworkers it has 16000 designs and plans with a super easy step by step instructions for all projects and the cost is so cheap, its great for a gift . Your sure to find a project ready and waiting for you, Anyway this is where i found it: http://www.woodshopprojectsdiy.com

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Reminds me of those posts under news articles that quote a couple of lines from the story and then add "My boyfriend thinks the same as me, lol…"

Some folk have NO class.

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[LCHIEN]

some guy MARKLANDER spammed us here too, his first and only post was something like i found a site with 16,000 plans and I got a free CAD program too. He didn't say it was $67 for downloading the plans, and it was that woodshopprojectsdiy.com site.

several people told me he was spamming other sites with a simlar message so I deleted his post.

[pelligrini]

It's all part of the BS marketing. From the affiliates link on Ted's Woodwoorking Site (my bold);
Highest Paying & Highest Converting Woodworking Package!

“ Make Big $$$ With TedsWoodworking ”

The #1 Woodworking Affiliate Program On Clickbank With 23% Conversions! We are #1 in Clickbank's home and garden category for a reason. Here, you get paid a whopping 75% for every sale you deliver on a $67 product. On top of that, we have OTOs ($37 offer) and backend offers that gives you extra commissions. You can earn a potential $80 per lead that you send to us! But thats not all, you'll also get a $10 bonus commission on top of that!

[gsmittle]

It's all part of the BS marketing. From the affiliates link on Ted's Woodwoorking Site (my bold);
Highest Paying & Highest Converting Woodworking Package!

“ Make Big $$$ With TedsWoodworking ”

The #1 Woodworking Affiliate Program On Clickbank With 23% Conversions! We are #1 in Clickbank's home and garden category for a reason. Here, you get paid a whopping 75% for every sale you deliver on a $67 product. On top of that, we have OTOs ($37 offer) and backend offers that gives you extra commissions. You can earn a potential $80 per lead that you send to us! But thats not all, you'll also get a $10 bonus commission on top of that!

Eww. Makes me want to shower.

IIRC, Wood magazine did a short article on one of the "Thousands of Woodworking Plans" CDs. I believe the writer said that most of the plans were counted in several categories, thus padding the total number, and that in general the plans were just copies of free or low-cost plans from numerous WW sites. IOW, "Don't waste your money!"

What impresses me is the sheer audacity of this; kinda like those guys who rob banks during rush hour on a Friday. The action is reprehensible; the nerve to do it so openly is not.

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[Tom Hintz]

I get asked every once in a while about advertising these deals on my site. The Ted's version of it asked last evening. I have been turning them down because I have yet to hear of one everybody likes. I also suspect that with that many thousands of plans, some may not be as up and up as they could be. I sued a guy (and won) a few years ago that ripped off several of my plans and had them on a CD he was selling. The ad dollars would be nice but not from outfits like that.

[pelligrini]

I wonder if your stuff is on that CD that they asked you to advertise?

[Tom Hintz]

I wonder if your stuff is on that CD that they asked you to advertise?

I have a big lawfirm in which 7 of the 9 senior partners are woodworkers and they love finding people ripping me off so they can nail them to the nearest wall. I sent them the info just in case. They have taken on two other plan CD operations for using my and others plans without authorization and they always get a settlement quickly.

[gsmittle]

I have a big lawfirm in which 7 of the 9 senior partners are woodworkers and they love finding people ripping me off so they can nail them to the nearest wall. I sent them the info just in case. They have taken on two other plan CD operations for using my and others plans without authorization and they always get a settlement quickly.

Now THAT sounds like fun!

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