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  • tommyt654
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 2334

    #1

    Taxes

    Most have probably seen this,but just in case in memeoriam of the 15th, Tax his land,
    Tax his bed,
    Tax the table
    At which he's fed.

    Tax his tractor,
    Tax his mule,
    Teach him taxes
    Are the rule.

    Tax his work,
    Tax his pay,
    He works for peanuts
    Anyway!
    Tax his cow,
    Tax his goat,
    Tax his pants,
    Tax his coat.
    Tax his ties,
    Tax his shirt,
    Tax his work,
    Tax his dirt.

    Tax his tobacco,
    Tax his drink,
    Tax him if he
    Tries to think.

    Tax his cigars,
    Tax his beers,
    If he cries
    Tax his tears.

    Tax his car,
    Tax his gas,
    Find other ways
    To tax his ass.

    Tax all he has
    Then let him know
    That you won't be done
    Till he has no dough.

    When he screams and hollers;
    Then tax him some more,
    Tax him till
    He's good and sore.
    Then tax his coffin,
    Tax his grave,
    Tax the sod in
    Which he's laid.

    Put these words
    Upon his tomb,
    Taxes drove me
    to my doom...'

    When he's gone,
    Do not relax,
    Its time to apply
    The inheritance tax.
    Accounts Receivable Tax
    Building Permit Tax
    CDL license Tax
    Cigarette Tax
    Corporate Income Tax
    Dog License Tax
    Excise Taxes
    Federal Income Tax
    Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
    Fishing License Tax
    Food License Tax
    Fuel Permit Tax
    Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
    Gross Receipts Tax
    Hunting License Tax
    Inheritance Tax
    Inventory Tax
    IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
    Liquor Tax
    Luxury Taxes
    Marriage License Tax
    Medicare Tax
    Personal Property Tax
    Property Tax
    Real Estate Tax
    Service Charge T ax
    Social Security Tax
    Road Usage Tax
    Sales Tax
    Recreational Vehicle Tax
    School Tax
    State Income Tax
    State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
    Telephone Federal Excise Tax
    Telephone Federal Universal Service FeeTax
    Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
    Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge=2 0Tax
    Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
    Telephone State and Local Tax
    Telephone Usage Charge Tax
    Utility Taxes
    Vehicle License Registration Tax
    Vehicle Sales Tax
    Watercraft Registration Tax
    Well Permit Tax
    Workers Compensation Tax

    STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids again.
  • chopnhack
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 3779
    • Florida
    • Ryobi BT3100

    #2
    Agreed, taxed into poverty while the elected squander our hard earned money.
    I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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    • cabinetman
      Gone but not Forgotten RIP
      • Jun 2006
      • 15216
      • So. Florida
      • Delta

      #3
      That's an incredible list.
      .

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      • Alex Franke
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2007
        • 2641
        • Chapel Hill, NC
        • Ryobi BT3100

        #4
        Originally posted by tommyt654
        STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids again.
        No national debt? Really?

        Too bad those folks in Pennsylvania didn't know there was no tax on alcohol or they could have saved our very first president some grief by not rebelling against it. ("It", of course, being the Whiskey Act, which I believe was passed by the very first congress for the purpose of paying down the national debt we apparently didn't have.)

        Oh, and mom didn't always have to stay home and raise the kids, because millions of them were working 14 hours days in coal mines, textile mills, and even on the street corners. (Maybe that's why we were so "prosperous?") And wasn't "The Jungle" (Sinclair) written about 100 years ago? Hmmm... Rosy times indeed!

        This is not intended to spark any kind of political discussion. I actually think it's clever and catchy. But I sincerely question its historical accuracy (at the very least the history it suggests). As much as I dislike them, taxes and debt have been a part of this great nation's history since day one. The original post pretty clearly suggests that they have not been.
        Last edited by Alex Franke; 04-18-2010, 11:38 PM.
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        • Kristofor
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2004
          • 1331
          • Twin Cities, MN
          • Jet JTAS10 Cabinet Saw

          #5
          Originally posted by Alex Franke
          and raise the kids, because millions of them were working 14 hours days in coal mines, textile mills, and even on the street corners. (Maybe that's why we were so "prosperous?") And wasn't "The Jungle" (Sinclair) written about 100 years ago? Hmmm... Rosy times indeed!
          Hello, agricultural America... No need to head off to a coal mine when you can be slave labor at home. Well, that's if you lived until you were old enough to work...


          Originally posted by Alex Franke
          This is not intended to spark any kind of political discussion. I actually think it's clever and catchy. But I sincerely question its historical accuracy (at the very least the history it suggests). As much as I dislike them, taxes and debt have been a part of this great nation's history since day one. The original post pretty clearly suggests that they have not been.
          +1

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          • radhak
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2006
            • 3061
            • Miramar, FL
            • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

            #6
            Originally posted by Alex Franke

            This is not intended to spark any kind of political discussion. I actually think it's clever and catchy. But I sincerely question its historical accuracy (at the very least the history it suggests). As much as I dislike them, taxes and debt have been a part of this great nation's history since day one. The original post pretty clearly suggests that they have not been.
            Ditto. Interesting and humorous, but not the truth; at least, not all the truth.

            I am sure many of those taxes did not exist in 1910. But then, the US was not the most prosperous nation : Great Britain was, by a stretch, and it had all the taxes imposed on its dominions across the globe!

            Even today, there are many nations that tax much less than the US, but you wouldn't want to live there. The last list from Forbes had said Qatar was the least taxed, followed by UAE. And places like Somalia et all don't make the list at all. I'm sure freedom from actually doing too many things for the populace frees the government from financial obligations!

            And the most taxed? The 'best' places to live in - the nordic countries. The US is a happy middle.

            Another point is - we didn't need all those taxes then. eg - Roads could be much worse than today and not be noticed : automobiles were just starting to happen! Individual rights were not guarded as much : a just-turned-teenager would have to follow the family 'job', and education be d***ed!.

            And I'm not sure 'Mom at home' is an indication of progress, or the other way around; they had a phrase for it - 'barefoot and pregnant' !

            But again, that list is impressive. Wonder if it is comprehensive or there's more.
            It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
            - Aristotle

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            • germdoc
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 3567
              • Omaha, NE
              • BT3000--the gray ghost

              #7
              I don't like taxes either, but they seem to be a necessity of modern life.

              Here's a thought--there's no law against becoming Amish. Contrary to popular belief, they do pay taxes, although probably less than almost any other group. They have to pay sales tax, income tax and property taxes but are exempt from SS taxes. Since most Amish do not generate much cash income, their income taxes should be quite low or nonexistent, although apparently on moral grounds many do not take advantage of tax credits they qualify for.

              Of course when they drive on "English" roads, use public transportation or phones, use public hospital services, etc., they are taking advantage of public services established supported by tax revenue, but real life is complicated, ain't it?
              Jeff


              “Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of whom they know nothing”--Voltaire

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              • jackellis
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2003
                • 2638
                • Tahoe City, CA, USA.
                • BT3100

                #8
                I'll quote the second law of thermodynamics, as explained to me by a college professor many decades ago, "There ain't no free lunch."

                The first law, by the way, was explained as "Them that has, gets."

                No one likes paying taxes, but everyone likes the goodies they provide.

                Make me dictator for life and I promise to fix things

                To start with, I'll sell off Air Force one, fly commercial, and carry my own bags.

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                • tommyt654
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 2334

                  #9
                  That was actually sent to me by a friend who has a political agenda to change me. That,ll never happen, but I posted it because I found it to be humourous and thought it might provide some interesting banter here amongst our community. I never intended it to become a political statement so please disregard that if you are inclined to believe so. As far as it being factual in anyway that was not intended either. But it does provoke some curiousity as to when and how these taxes came about.
                  Last edited by tommyt654; 04-19-2010, 09:22 AM.

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                  • Hoover
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 1273
                    • USA.

                    #10
                    Life 100 years ago: Decade 1910 http://kclibrary.lonestar.edu/decade10.html

                    FACTS about this decade.
                    Population: 92,407,000
                    Life Expectancy: Male 48.4 Female: 51.8
                    Average Salary $750 / year
                    The Ziegfeld girls earned $75/week.
                    Unemployed 2,150,000
                    National Debt: $1.15 billion
                    Union Membership: 2.1 million Strikes 1,204
                    Attendance: Movies 30 million per week
                    Lynchings: 76
                    Divorce: 1/1000
                    Vacation: 12 day cruise $60
                    Whiskey $3.50 / gallon, Milk $.32 / gallon
                    Speeds make automobile safety an issue
                    25,000 performers tour 4,000 U.S. theaters
                    Last edited by Hoover; 04-19-2010, 12:20 PM. Reason: added source for add'l info
                    No good deed goes unpunished

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                    • vaking
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 1428
                      • Montclair, NJ, USA.
                      • Ryobi BT3100-1

                      #11
                      I cannot tell you how each individual tax came about but I can give you the short summary.
                      100 years ago the federal government was responsible for very few things, such as maintaining army to defend the country and maintaining judicial system. There were no social programs like unemployment, medicare, welfare, etc. Federal budget was never higher than 8% of Gross National Product - that means federal government was collecting less than 8% of national economy in taxes. Today we have all those social programs and that means that government collects money (usually in taxes) and redistributes that money back to the population in various forms, for instance by paying social security. Gross National Product is now called Gross Domestic Product but it still roughly means "all our economy". Federal Budget now is never less than 25% of Gross Domestic Product. Social programs, that are the main difference between our country today and back then, were developed as response to events like great depression although they were actually introduced to the economy gradually and with delays. They really started to make a difference after 1960 although theoretical foundations for most were developed in thirties. Today most people dislike taxes but not many are prepared to live without medicare or social security. Anybody suggesting to reduce taxes - should also suggest what social programs to drop or reduce to keep things balanced. Don't just critisize - make constructive suggestions.
                      Alex V

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                      • radhak
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 3061
                        • Miramar, FL
                        • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

                        #12
                        Originally posted by tommyt654
                        That was actually sent to me by a friend who has a political agenda to change me. That,ll never happen, but I posted it because I found it to be humourous and thought it might provide some interesting banter here amongst our community. I never intended it to become a political statement so please disregard that if you are inclined to believe so. As far as it being factual in anyway that was not intended either. But it does provoke some curiousity as to when and how these taxes came about.
                        And you are right - this was fun to ruminate on...

                        Originally posted by Hoover
                        Life 100 years ago: Decade 1910 http://kclibrary.lonestar.edu/decade10.html
                        That's a great site! And seeing that we are talking about what had been achieved by then, I thought the decade 1900-10 would be a better guide : http://kclibrary.lonestar.edu/decade00.html :

                        FACTS about this decade.

                        * 76,000,000 Americans in 46 states (by the end of the decade.)
                        * Policeman arrests woman for smoking in public
                        * $46,000,000+ in the U.S. treasury
                        * 8,000 cars - 10 miles of paved roads
                        * 1900 - Auto deaths 96; lynchings 115
                        * San Francisco Earthquake took 700 lives and cost over $4,000,000 in damage.
                        * Average worker made $12.98/week for 59 hours
                        * Life expectancy: 47.3 female, 46.3 male - 33.0 blacks
                        * Essay - Birth of the 20th Century

                        8000 cars on 10 miles of paved road...that must be a pretty congested road !
                        It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
                        - Aristotle

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                        • germdoc
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 3567
                          • Omaha, NE
                          • BT3000--the gray ghost

                          #13
                          I'm pleased that I've outlived my live expectancy--from 100 years ago!

                          Here is an interesting summary of where your federal tax dollars go:

                          http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1258

                          As you can see, 20% for defense, 20% for SS, 21% for MC/MA, 6% interest on debt, 7% federal worker and vet benefits--there's not much "discretionary spending" left.
                          Last edited by germdoc; 04-19-2010, 02:46 PM.
                          Jeff


                          “Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of whom they know nothing”--Voltaire

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                          • radhak
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 3061
                            • Miramar, FL
                            • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

                            #14
                            Originally posted by germdoc
                            Here is an interesting summary of where your federal tax dollars go:

                            http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1258

                            As you can see, 20% for defense, 20% for SS, 21% for MC/MA, 6% interest on debt, 7% federal worker and vet benefits--there's not much "discretionary spending" left.
                            Oh man, I wish you had not posted that! I get so upset whenever I see what Education gets - 3% ?!??!! At times I day-dream, like what if that was 10%, or even 20% ! We would be right on the path to a unbelievable greatness!
                            It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
                            - Aristotle

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                            • mschrank
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 1130
                              • Hood River, OR, USA.
                              • BT3000

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tommyt654
                              That was actually sent to me by a friend who has a political agenda to change me. That,ll never happen, but I posted it because I found it to be humourous and thought it might provide some interesting banter here amongst our community. I never intended it to become a political statement so please disregard that if you are inclined to believe so. As far as it being factual in anyway that was not intended either. But it does provoke some curiousity as to when and how these taxes came about.
                              It was a cinch to spot that you copied and pasted...the person who originally typed it knew how to use the apostrophe rather than the comma!
                              Mike

                              Drywall screws are not wood screws

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