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  • cabinetman
    Gone but not Forgotten RIP
    • Jun 2006
    • 15216
    • So. Florida
    • Delta

    #1

    What's With ESPN and ESPN2?

    It seems that they are overrun with talk shows and commentaries. Where are the sports?
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  • schloff
    Established Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 229
    • Southern Middle TN
    • Powermatic 64 (BT3000 RIP)

    #2
    Unfortunately, like most other networks, they have fallen prey to the trend. It was only a matter of time.

    I am addicted to the History Channel. It's my first stop almost every time with my remote. They have been showing some lame "reality" crap called "Pawn Stars", which is lock-step with every other failing network's solution to draw viewers.

    I don't see the need for a cable network, developed to cater to one demographic (MTV=music, ESPN=sports, History= HISTORY) to blast totally pointless crap rather than what the customer is paying for.

    We have lost, as consumers.

    I can see ESPN's situation at times. They have 9 dedicated channels to broadcast, and only 5 sporting events to cover. I can see their dillema. But at least try to keep it sports related. (I saw it on the Ocho. You know, ESPN 8)

    But the history channel should never run out of subjects to cover. Heck, history is made every time the clock ticks.

    I will continue to frequent both the History Channel and ESPN, but I refuse to watch in those time slots. TCM is broadcasting a classic movie that I'm sure I haven't seen in a while, and without commercials.

    Sorry for the long post, but I needed to vent on this as well.

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    • LCHIEN
      Super Moderator
      • Dec 2002
      • 22001
      • Katy, TX, USA.
      • BT3000 vintage 1999

      #3
      cheaper to broadcast talk shows than produce live sports coverage/programming.
      All networks know that, doncha know.
      Loring in Katy, TX USA
      If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
      BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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      • Shep
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 710
        • Columbus, OH
        • Hitachi C10FL

        #4
        Originally posted by schloff
        Unfortunately, like most other networks, they have fallen prey to the trend. It was only a matter of time.

        I am addicted to the History Channel. It's my first stop almost every time with my remote. They have been showing some lame "reality" crap called "Pawn Stars", which is lock-step with every other failing network's solution to draw viewers.

        I don't see the need for a cable network, developed to cater to one demographic (MTV=music, ESPN=sports, History= HISTORY) to blast totally pointless crap rather than what the customer is paying for.

        We have lost, as consumers.

        I can see ESPN's situation at times. They have 9 dedicated channels to broadcast, and only 5 sporting events to cover. I can see their dillema. But at least try to keep it sports related. (I saw it on the Ocho. You know, ESPN 8)

        But the history channel should never run out of subjects to cover. Heck, history is made every time the clock ticks.

        I will continue to frequent both the History Channel and ESPN, but I refuse to watch in those time slots. TCM is broadcasting a classic movie that I'm sure I haven't seen in a while, and without commercials.

        Sorry for the long post, but I needed to vent on this as well.
        I love Pawn Stars. I know it doesn't seem like history, but I've learned about a lot of antiques this way. Just my 2 cents.
        -Justin


        shepardwoodworking.webs.com


        ...you can thank me later.

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        • schloff
          Established Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 229
          • Southern Middle TN
          • Powermatic 64 (BT3000 RIP)

          #5
          Originally posted by Shep
          I love Pawn Stars. I know it doesn't seem like history, but I've learned about a lot of antiques this way. Just my 2 cents.
          Not saying that it's a horrible show, it just doesn't belong on that network.

          I saw it twice, decided that I won't give them the satisfaction.

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          • jhart
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2004
            • 1715
            • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
            • BT3100

            #6
            Seems like the same problem with the Weather Channel. When I go to that channel, I want to know what the weather is, not watch "Storm Stories".
            Joe
            "All things are difficult before they are easy"

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            • LCHIEN
              Super Moderator
              • Dec 2002
              • 22001
              • Katy, TX, USA.
              • BT3000 vintage 1999

              #7
              another TV exec from the old days once predicted, when there's 500 Channels, each channel will spend 1/500th the current (inflation adjusted) budget (for three network shows) to produce TV shows.
              Loring in Katy, TX USA
              If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
              BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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              • LinuxRandal
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2005
                • 4890
                • Independence, MO, USA.
                • bt3100

                #8
                Easiest thing to do, switch the dumb box off, and go have a life. It amazes me the number of people who have to watch tv, when they go out to eat.

                Newsworthy?

                As for programing issues, the one that gets my goat, is HLN, that gets interrupted, by "Seeking Solutions with Suzanne". This Martha Stewart wanta be (left out part of the best description), has NO business, on headline news, maybe lifetime or the health channel.
                When I look at the news, I am looking for the news, not some programming reps, relative.
                She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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                • Kristofor
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 1331
                  • Twin Cities, MN
                  • Jet JTAS10 Cabinet Saw

                  #9
                  Two words, "Divver" (DVR) and Netflix. Between the two you can watch more or less anything you want without having to catch any reality TV!

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                  • ironhat
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 2553
                    • Chambersburg, PA (South-central).
                    • Ridgid 3650 (can I still play here?)

                    #10
                    Originally posted by LinuxRandal
                    ,snip>
                    Newsworthy?
                    <snip>
                    When I look at the news, I am looking for the news, not some programming reps, relative.
                    Nor am I looking for the talking head to spin it for because I don't have the common sense to figure it out - and I don't care which network it is!
                    Last edited by ironhat; 01-26-2010, 11:43 AM. Reason: clarity
                    Blessings,
                    Chiz

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                    • crokett
                      The Full Monte
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 10627
                      • Mebane, NC, USA.
                      • Ryobi BT3000

                      #11
                      They have to broadcast something 24hrs a day doncha know? Not like the olden days when there was a test pattern overnight.
                      David

                      The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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                      • Uncle Cracker
                        The Full Monte
                        • May 2007
                        • 7091
                        • Sunshine State
                        • BT3000

                        #12
                        Originally posted by crokett
                        They have to broadcast something 24hrs a day doncha know? Not like the olden days when there was a test pattern overnight.
                        I'd rather watch a test pattern than an endless supply of idiotic pitchmen in the "paid programming" game. There are certain times in my cable lineup where there is literally nothing on but infomercials.

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                        • TB Roye
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                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2969
                          • Sacramento, CA, USA.
                          • BT3100

                          #13
                          I just love REPO on the True TV Channel. That Woman just trun me on. What a pig.

                          Even American Chopper is old and crap.

                          Just my .02 There are a lot of good programs but you have to find them.

                          Tom

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