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It looks terrible. In the books he wasn't as physical as the movie makes him out to be. He was much more cerebral.
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LOML is a big Sherlock Holmes fan, specifically the movies with Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce. And yes we have been to 211B Baker St. Her first comment on seeing the promo, "That is NOT Sherlock Holmes. Not even close." And being an habitual cocaine user pretty much rules out him being that physical. Have to treat it like a parallel version I guess._____________
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Actually I recall in the books (and it been many years) that SH was not very athletic appearing to others but in reality was quite strong. For example, in one episode an adversary picked up a iron (fireplace) poker and grunting and straining, slowly bent it in a show of aggression and power meant to threaten SH. When the bully in question left, Sherlock picked up the poker and in one swift motion straightened it out again.
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Loring, I remember that story also. I didn't mean he wasn't athletic, I meant he solved cases by thinking about them. Spenser is a much more pugilistic detective. Archie Goodwin was the man of action, Nero Wolfe was the thinker.David
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I have not seen it, but that is about what I would expect. You have to remember that the Sherlock Stories were written for people who read. Let's face it we do not live in very cerebral times. Current movie formulas call for lots of action violence explosions & loud noise & not much to tax the infantile minds of the target audience. & That is not Conan-Doyle's Sherlock of the Victorian & Edwardian eras.Comment
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They have just taken parts of the Holmes personality and stretched it for today's (ie, the teen and teen-ish) audience.
Holmes was strong (as Loring correctly recalls), an athlete of sorts and also a boxer, documented in a couple of stories, eg The Solitary Cyclist.
So for a adapt-by-committee, a kickboxer/bare-knuckle-boxer is not much of a stretch. Of course they gloss over the fact that Doyle showed that side of Holmes in a minor by-the-way, not his mainstay.
Not that I'm gonna watch this one - I'm a big Holmes fan, and cannot stomach seeing him naked in bed
. And btw, Irene Adler was an adversary to Holmes (The Bohemian Scandal), whom he never meets in person. To show her as his love interest (as it looks like) is sacrilege.
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I will reserve judgment. I have read the Sherlock Holmes stories many times over the years, and there are many things this movie version has right that other film versions didn't, apparently. I'm ready for another interpretation of the legend. OTOH, I think the casting should have been Robert Downey as Watson and Jude Law as Holmes.
My favorite performance was Jeremy Brett in the PBS series. After him, there can never really be another Holmes. He poured himself into the role and suffered a nervous breakdown as a result. His intelligence, wit and mani-depressive personality accurately reflect what I remember of Holmes from the books.
On another front, there's another version of Robin Hood coming out, with Russell Crowe as the lead. It looks like it MIGHT finally do a good job of portraying this legendary figure.Jeff
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The December issue of Wired magazine (page 74) has a rundown of the new Holmes versus Doyles' original. Comments on the hat, the pipe, the habits(drugs), the physique and Sherlock's sanity as portrayed in the movie.
The issue should come on line in a couple of weeks.regards,
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Cynical times indeed. Yet another Robin Hood and still not one good version of Ivanhoe.Comment
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i suppose there's a place in moviemaking for those who wish to portray a character in a particular way or who wish to portray a character as they see him or are comfortable portraying him.
However, certain characters are well known either through great popularity and wide reading (e.g. fictional characters like Holmes) or because they are real characters whose personalities are known (or at least known to the writers). With these characters it might be literary license to change the portrayal to fit the actor or make a fictionalized account. But it seems to me that the real challenge for a director and an actor is to portray the man as he was depicted and developed in novels (Holmes) or in real life (non-fiction biographies).Loring in Katy, TX USA
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Quoting GermDoc
"My favorite performance was Jeremy Brett in the PBS series. After him, there can never really be another Holmes. He poured himself into the role and suffered a nervous breakdown as a result. His intelligence, wit and mani-depressive personality accurately reflect what I remember of Holmes from the books."
I fully agree with doc on this one.. This series is on Iowa PTV on Thursday nights. Along with the Murdoch mysteries, where Conan-Doyle makes an appearance acting like he is developing a new character based on the detective Murdoch. Murdoch is also a thinker and is developing what we now call forensics.
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