Nostalgia for some of us - IBM 1401

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  • cwsmith
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    #16
    Come on now... it ain't that old ()!

    Actually, I was a "Data Maintenance Clerk" back in 1965 at Security Mutual Life Insurance company in Binghamton, NY. On the 7th floor was the data processing center and they had a 1401 system. It wasn't all dressed up like the pictures shown in the link, with our beast being basically two-tone gray. (IBM, in neighboring Endicott started producing certain dress color schemes (IBM blue, red, and creme; IIRC...I think I still have a can of the red somewhere here) in 1964 or so). BTW, the 1401 was considered a second-generation computer as it was mostly transistorized.

    If you look at picture 2, that's a 1402 card processor on the left and right behind the women is the 1401. On the extreme right, is the 1403 chain printer. We had the 1403N1 which was the highspeed version, with a hydrolically operated acoustic hood. The "chain printer" actually printed an entire line with one stroke (unlike today's printers which print one character at a time moving back and forth to complete a line).

    Also pictured in Image 2 are four tape drive systems. Much more modern than the card-based system that our 1401 handeled. As a matter of fact, our entire system was card based (80-column punch cards). My job was to handle address changes which we'd receive during the month. Boring job as I'd spend just about all day at a keypunch machine.

    But, one week out of the month I'd go through just about every machine in the center, processing cards for the monthly billing. By Friday I'd have collated, sorted, and handled cards in a number of ways, getting them ready to process. You'd then put a "program stack" in front of your "load" and put them in the hopper on the left end of the 1402. Setting up the 1402 (like the collating processor) and the 1401 required me to set up the "switches and knobs" from an instruction book that was provided by the dept. programmer (in other words, I just followed procedures and didn't have much of a clue beyond that).

    The 026 Keypunch machine and the collator that is shown pre-dates 1965/6. We were using 029 keypunch machines by that time. What is not well known, is that after the operator punches an card, the data list/form and the newly punched cards have to go to a second person who then inserts the deck into a "verifier" and then key in all the data the second time. Though they pretty much looked the same, the 059 Verifier "read" the holes in the previously punched card and if all the keystrokes were the same, if placed a "verification notch" in the edgd of the card. This was the system way of proof reading the work.

    I remember when I was first introduced to the dataprocessing dept., my manager pointed at a chest freezer-size unit sitting in back of the 1401 and telling me it was a 4 kilobyte memory addition.... which gave us the largest operating system in the county. Believe it or not, over in Endicott, IBM was still using their first generation vacuum tube relay system to handle payroll. It required a couple of full-time technicians to keep it running.

    I didn't see it in the linked article, and I don't really recall (for sure, anyway) how much "memory" the 1401 had... but I seem to recall that with the extra 4 K module, we had a total of around 12 or 16 kilobytes (not Mega or Giga) of core memory. By contrast, our first home computer was an Atari 800 with 48 kilobytes, 4-channel sound and color... that was 1978 or 79.

    CWS
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    • BobSch
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      #17
      Originally posted by Rich P
      Does anyone here know why it was called "core" memory? Hint, IBM had LOLs string wire through iron rings. Also, who knows where the term "bug" came from and why? Another hint, it was a Navy lady! While we are going down memory lane, what ever happened to COBOL?
      Core memory because of the ferrite doughnuts that served as the storage medium.

      Admiral Grace Hopper found the first bug in the contacts of a relay in the machine she was working on.

      (She was also involved in the development of COBOL. Well, nobody's perfect.)

      COBOL is still around with millions of lines of code still in production.
      Bob

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      • cwithboat
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        #18
        You guys really know how to drag up the old nightmares. Punch cards handed in as homework, technology break through - fan folding paper tape, bit by bit programming of the i4004. Arrrggg
        regards,
        Charlie
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        • billwmeyer
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          #19
          I don't know the model number, but my dad used to run an IBM similar to that. They switched later to a Honeywell brand. The room was always cold and noisey, but I used to love to mess with the punch card machines. I always wanted to move a wire or two on their circuit boards but I left them alone. One program he had printed out a large size version of Santa with all of his reindeers with letters. It took several minutes for the program to run before it started printing.

          Bill
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          • KenBurris
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            • Jan 2003
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            #20
            Originally posted by avbclark
            Thanks for posting the link.
            I remember waiting with anticipation as the operator took my card deck and I waited to see if the program would run.
            My first was a 360/50, doing bank processing. Some checking jobs were 4 boxes of punch cards, most of it data, but @10% job control language. my console had 3 dials to set an address, and a blue button labelled "Load" to store into that address. Next to the console was the reader/punch. One day, a junior programmer came in with his 40- card test program, put in into the reader, and hit the Console "Load" button instead of the one on the reader (basically shutting down the computer).
            From then on, he had no proper name, he was always called "Load Button".

            I could EOB ambidexterously.
            Ken in Cincinnati

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            • johnb
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              #21
              Now you've done it! Made me relive my first computer nightmare. I was a sailor athe Navel Electronics Lab in 1968. I had the graveyard shift loading test data mag tapes into those huge drives and into some IBM machine creating teletype paper tapes. I loaded a tape into a drive that had a problem with the vacuum door interlock ( the glass door below the tape reels that control the reel feed and take up speeds. Anyway, the door wasn't completely closed, I hit the load button, and within a few minutes unwound about a mile of tape onto the computer room deck. I spent a lot of overtime manually rewinding that puppy.....:

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              • Rich P
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                #22
                I the 70's we always drew a diagonal line across any deck of Hollerith cards (the 80 column things). In my first DP job (as we called it in those day, which was just emerging from "tab" as in tabulation), we had a 360/20 with no disk so everything was cards (including the compiler). Imagine my horror one day when I "dropped" the (RPG) compiler. Fortunately there was a sequence number punched in columns 76-80 so I could "sort it out" but does anyone remember the number of the sorter? I don't, only that in "Dragnet" there was always one punched card that fell out on the final sort with the name of the suspect!

                Several years later I was working at Stanford and one of my tasks was to convert a 1403 Autocoder application to run under first simulation (and later emulation) on a 370 running MVS. I found the source code (cards of course) in a back room and had to beg the operators on the floor to feed the cards into the reader so I could get them on disk, "compile" them and start testing. First time through it would not run. Turned out that the emulator would punch two blank cards after the "compile" to clear the object code (card deck) out of the card punch (real world machine). Once I found the two blank cards (all x40) and deleted them on line, things started working.

                I'll try to find my archives and post an image of one of the source code cards.

                BTW Loren, back in those days as I recall there was no such thing as a Magic Marker...we called them felt tip pens.
                Last edited by Rich P; 11-18-2009, 09:16 PM.
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                • gary
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                  #23
                  I was an IBM CE during the 70's. Worked on many a 1403 printer. Hated the hydraulic unit with a passion but otherwise not a bad machine. I ended up being a specialist on the 3420 tape drive and the Mass Storage unit. Lots of good and bad memories.

                  I got called out one holiday weekend when a 1.5" water pipe broke over the top of a 370 mainframe at the Univ of Illinois (12th street in Chicago). The guy in the plant didn't think it was funny when I asked him to expedite the shipment of a new mainframe.
                  Gary

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                  • jackellis
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                    #24
                    Speaking of memory, where did they dig up the geezers who still remembered how to work on that thing?!
                    My wife might be one of them geezers. She used to write what we now call "device drivers" for the early magnetic disk drives. In those days there were no computer science programs. She'd gotten a degree in chemistry and was on the verge of becoming a teacher when she saw an ad by IBM. Later on she ported the VAX assembler to IBM's first RISC workstation.

                    Today I have to show her how to use her PC

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                    • Rich P
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                      #25
                      Jack, seems to me like she was doing what would be called computer science today (porting assemblers). Way back then they were as I recall not called device drives but some part of the IOCS (in the 360 days at least). And putting aside the computing part, who remembers the days when printer output was limited to 132 characters per line? Actually the 1403N1 was an incredible electro-mechanical device (before the big laser printers).
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                      • BadeMillsap
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                        #26
                        2nd gen IBMer here ...

                        I sent the link to my dad ... he was an IBM CE on the 1st "in the field" 360/30 ... it was at Globe Exploration in Midland, Texas and they basically "re-engineered" that computer "in the field" ... I remember Christmas's when he would bring these huge "wreaths" made out of punched cards or take the family over to the computer room to listen to the 1403 printer play "Jingle Bells" ... lottsa IBM stories in my life ... when I graduated from college in 1974 with degrees in Physics and Computer Science I went to work for IBM as a "PSR" ("Program Support Rep") -- we "fixed the broken software on the mainframes" .. things like compilers, operating systems, telecommunication access methods, database systems ... after almost 36 years I'm STILL an IBMer ... and expect to retire 1Q2010 ... the 370/115 was my first "customer machine" account and it's been quite a ride seeing the technology change from when I was a kid in high school and see first hand what the leading technology of the time was up until now ... I can't wait to see where it goes from here even though I will have a bit more of a sideline seat .. by the way ... that "tool bag" shown in one of the many pictures linked to ... my dad still has one ... genuine IBM issue ...

                        Thanks for the link!!!
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                        • cwsmith
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                          #27
                          Rich P,

                          I'm not sure if I'm remembering the model number correctly and certainly there's a chance that I predate you... but I seem to recall using two different IBM card sorters and if I remember correctly the oldest was an 068 and the latest (early 70's) was an "072". Didn't think much of it then, but looking at the model numbers now, it's almost like they were "year" model numbers.

                          Sorting always looked so "magical" and rather finite when shown on TV... remember seeing them "sort" on the quiz show "The $64,000 Question"? But in reality, you had to set the wire for a particular column, run the sort, restack and then sort again on the next column, and repeat that for every column you needed. In the case of an 8-digit field, you ran the darn thing eight times, reforming the stack from each bin in between sorts. Monotonous job!

                          I remember one time when I forgot to put the "stack plate" on top of the deck which I had placed in the infeed hopper. When it got down to that last card it just made a loud "poof" and majority of the card went to a kazillion pieces. I never forgot the stack plate after that!

                          CWS
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                          • LCHIEN
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by cwsmith
                            Rich P,

                            I'm not sure if I'm remembering the model number correctly and certainly there's a chance that I predate you... but I seem to recall using two different IBM card sorters and if I remember correctly the oldest was an 068 and the latest (early 70's) was an "072". Didn't think much of it then, but looking at the model numbers now, it's almost like they were "year" model numbers.

                            ...

                            CWS
                            I think those were unit numbers (like device addresses)... not model numbers.
                            Loring in Katy, TX USA
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                            • RodKirby
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                              #29
                              Here's a test:

                              What is a 5424 MFCU ? (Specifically)
                              Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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                              • cwithboat
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by RodKirby
                                Here's a test:

                                What is a 5424 MFCU ? (Specifically)
                                Well I know what MF stands for, I assume that the CU is Computing (or Card) Unit.
                                5424 is the number of times I had to re-punch a card uttering "MFCU".
                                regards,
                                Charlie
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