What Are We Teaching Our Kids?

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  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
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    #1

    What Are We Teaching Our Kids?

    Kids can buy better grades:

    http://www.newsobserver.com/home/story/185460.html
    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.
  • cabinetman
    Gone but not Forgotten RIP
    • Jun 2006
    • 15216
    • So. Florida
    • Delta

    #2
    I don't agree with the principle, but as the article stated it doesn't really affect the grades. I think the students understand the principle.
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    • cgallery
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2004
      • 4503
      • Milwaukee, WI
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      #3
      Increasing the score on a test by 10 points may be enough to move someone from a B- to a solid B, no?

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      • alpha
        Established Member
        • Dec 2003
        • 352
        • Owensboro, KY, USA.

        #4
        The Principal said she "rejected the suggestion that the school is selling grades. Extra points on two tests won't make a difference in a student's final grade, she said.

        It's wrong to think that "one particular grade could change the entire focus of nine weeks."

        So I guess it is entirely "subjective" how you go from a "fail" to a "pass". Maybe this way of grading means that everybody just "passes" and the "points" are not relevent. Yep. That's what is happening in public schools.

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        • LinuxRandal
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          • Feb 2005
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          • Independence, MO, USA.
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          #5
          Originally posted by cabinetman
          I don't agree with the principle, but as the article stated it doesn't really affect the grades. I think the students understand the principle.
          .
          Wouldn't this depend on how much money a kid brought in? Say they brought in $500, and a test that is coming up, is 1/3 their grade. That WOULD change things.
          She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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          • Uncle Cracker
            The Full Monte
            • May 2007
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            #6
            If, as they say, it won't affect the grades, then why would anybody want to do it? If anything, this exercise will teach the kids the questionable ethic of "What's in it for me?".

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            • LCHIEN
              Super Moderator
              • Dec 2002
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              • Katy, TX, USA.
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              #7
              "[Principal] Shepherd rejected the suggestion that the school is selling grades. Extra points on two tests won't make a difference in a student's final grade, she said."

              She must have failed math, herself. Or maybe she bought her math grades up to passing when she was in school... otherwise how would she get to be principal?
              Loring in Katy, TX USA
              If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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              • Kristofor
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                • Jul 2004
                • 1331
                • Twin Cities, MN
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                #8
                Q: What are we teaching them?
                A: Exactly how the real world works...

                Pay to play, it's not what you know it's who you know, marketing trumps engineering, etc...

                There will always be jobs, and decent rewards for folks who either have a strong work ethic or excellent skills/aptitude, or both in a best case scenario. For the rest, learning the way the system works is probably more valuable, or at least it avoids a sense of disappointment every time they open the newspaper...

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                • scmhogg
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                  • Jan 2003
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                  #9
                  I wish they had that sort of system when I was in school. I'm sure I would have done much better.

                  Steve
                  I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong. Bertrand Russell

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                  • cgallery
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 4503
                    • Milwaukee, WI
                    • BT3K

                    #10
                    Teachers have been looking for a new way to screw kids ever since they were told that literally screwing them was off-limits.
                    Last edited by cgallery; 11-11-2009, 02:07 PM.

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                    • Al R.
                      Established Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 111
                      • Florida.
                      • Delta 36-600

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Uncle Cracker
                      If, as they say, it won't affect the grades, then why would anybody want to do it? If anything, this exercise will teach the kids the questionable ethic of "What's in it for me?".
                      You are very right.
                      I used to be a teacher in the public system (linguistics) and that kind of things exist. It will teach them that you always need a reward just to be a human.
                      No counting the general indoctrination been a fact on things like history, social sciences, etc, which are taught not from a critical point of view but from the stand point where you have to believe just the official given version.

                      The last thing I saw at the end of the last school year (my ever last one teaching!) was every morning kids had to watch the current president of the Unites States giving a short pre-recorded speech with a saint-type-of music in the background.
                      "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases"....it happens the same with a big shop.

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                      • tkarlmann
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                        • Dec 2003
                        • 360
                        • Hoffman Estates, IL, USA.
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                        #12
                        I lost it when I learned ...

                        that kids nowadays "don't have the time" to learn cursive handwriting! I guess the're too busy buying & selling drugs and such.
                        Thom

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