A Real "Moving" Experience

[cabinetman]

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/200...tennessee.html
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[Bruce Cohen]

This is exactally the thing that makes me proud to be American, and justifies with all the years I spent in S.E. Asia, regardless what "Hanoi Jane" had to say.

And my answer to that is Screw Her.

Thanks Cab for showing us it was all worth while. FTA

Bruce

[cabinetman]

This is exactally the thing that makes me proud to be American, and justifies with all the years I spent in S.E. Asia, regardless what "Hanoi Jane" had to say.

And my answer to that is Screw Her.

Thanks Cab for showing us it was all worth while. FTA

Bruce

It was worthwhile Bruce. The lack of respect and apathy for returning soldiers and the ones that gave their lives was as paramount then as it is now. It's evident with the 70 or so views of this thread to the funeral procession, with no response whatsoever.

If that dead soldier only knew what those people felt and did for him. That's recognition for ya. How can those that serve our country bear with the lack of interest and at times just downright dislike is beyond me. We did it and know the feeling.

Maybe our country would be in better shape if the reaction was more like this.
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[Bruce Cohen]

Shame on some of you

It's evident with the 70 or so views of this thread to the funeral procession, with no response whatsoever.
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I'm really surprised at the whole bunch of you, at the least, a comment would have been a "kind" gesture.

The lack of responses makes all of us who served feel like no one really cares, (yeah, I know that's not the case for some of you).

It reminds me of the stories about some of us being spit on when we returned from Nam.

I see loads of unimportant (to the bulk of us) posts about numerous things and useless answers ad nauseam (just to bring up someone's post count) about everything but woodworking. I really think its time to either reevaluate this site and its reason for its existence, or to get real about the world outside and allow those who want to discuss "banned" subjects lose the "in-group" puritans that I feel exist.

I'm not really happy at all.

Bruce

[Tom Slick]

I'm sure this will come off the wrong way but how many times does something like this have to be posted, and everyone respond "that's wonderful", statements of pride, and thank you's, etc before you'll feel "happy" Bruce? Do obligatory, almost conditioned responses to a two year old picture set that has circulated the internet repeatedly really make that much difference? Don't you know deep inside that the vast majority of us do in fact appreciate what you and our fellow Vet/POW/MIA/lost have done for us. I know it can never be said enough, but at some level it has to be believed, even when not repeated outwardly.
I'm saying this from one Vet to another albeit a different generation, war, and service. I know your scares are much much deeper than mine and may never heal. If this makes you "not really happy at all" you need seek help beyond this board to work on healing those wounds.

[TB Roye]

This past spring LOML and I stopped on our way home from Church to pay our respects to a fallen Navy Seaman who was being returned home. In Civilian life he was a Fireman and they brought his casket from the plane and placed it on his Firetruck. both the City of Sacramento PD, the County Sheriff and his home town Police Dept. and the California Highway Patrol provided the escort. It was a truly moving experience, right up there with going to the American Cemetary at Cambridge England with my two sons, one of whom was in Air Force, shortly after 6/6/64 the 50th annivsary of the D Day landings. So much different than what many of us went through who served during the late 60's and into the 70's and came home. I will never forgive Jane Fonda for what she did and others of her ilk. She should have been tried for Treason. Now after all these years later, I was labled a racist and unamerican because I attended a Tea Party few months ago makes me sick. End of rant. I am glad the service people who give their all get the respect that is due them.

Tom

[FL Buckeye]

Its always causes a mix of emotions to see something like this. A few years ago a couple members of my Army unit from back in the 60's started the task of locating as many of us as possible. The list is now over 100 good men long and we share emails with, among other things, photos and videos of military funerals. I must say that about the time I feel saddened by the lack of respect for the American Flag during parades, etc, then something sad like a funeral of a fallen soldier and the large respectful turnout of community brings back the hope that it is not as bad as it sometimes seems. Also, our returning troops get a positive welcome.

[LCHIEN]

It was worthwhile Bruce. The lack of respect and apathy for returning soldiers and the ones that gave their lives was as paramount then as it is now. It's evident with the 70 or so views of this thread to the funeral procession, with no response whatsoever.

If that dead soldier only knew what those people felt and did for him. That's recognition for ya. How can those that serve our country bear with the lack of interest and at times just downright dislike is beyond me. We did it and know the feeling.

Maybe our country would be in better shape if the reaction was more like this.
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Before I was insulted once and only had one thing to say and I thought the better of it.
Now I have been insulted twice and have two things to say:

Never confuse lack of a post as lack of patriotism.

And D^MN IT, never confuse Texas with Tennessee.

[cabinetman]

I'm sure this will come off the wrong way but how many times does something like this have to be posted, and everyone respond "that's wonderful", statements of pride, and thank you's, etc before you'll feel "happy" Bruce?

It's a matter of responding at all. Maybe not the "thank you's" as you state, but how about just response to the post in general. Whenever there's a post asking for prayers, not posting to that may imply that one doesn't care. The same applies here. I also feel that it's not a matter of making Bruce happy. What Bruce might like to hear is a response to what those people did for that funeral procession.

There may never be an agreement on our military policies but the need is closer to home than one might think. For all those that just don't care, or don't realize that our government doesn't ask for much in our lives as far as commitments go, maybe the draft got some bums off their butts and gave them a reason to feel some respect.

Saying thank you really isn't that hard to do. Maybe it's not a thank you that give those that serve the feeling that they are doing something very realistic for everyone. The threats of some jerkheads can be understood by their mere crashing planes into buildings, or blowing up sidewalk cafes, or posing some threat to those that don't care, their families, relatives and any friends they may or may not have.

Do obligatory, almost conditioned responses to a two year old picture set that has circulated the internet repeatedly really make that much difference?

Well, you may never know if it does. Seeing it as obligatory and a conditioned response says that there is no response to the meaning of that funeral procession. I don't understand the feeling of "obligation". I do have thoughts on how the people of our country backs our individual wish to establish some semblance of order. Other than our military, what else do we have?

Don't you know deep inside that the vast majority of us do in fact appreciate what you and our fellow Vet/POW/MIA/lost have done for us. I know it can never be said enough, but at some level it has to be believed, even when not repeated outwardly.

I served with a high school buddy, an Army Ranger, who did two tours in VN. We email regularly and are always sending each other articles like that one. Not that any thanks are in order nor do we seek a constant pat on the back. We do get a feeling of what we did as worthwhile, when we come across those situations that support the effort. So, in the end, your suggestion to just believe the appreciation exists is evidentiary. Most of us have accepted that.

I'm saying this from one Vet to another albeit a different generation, war, and service. I know your scares are much much deeper than mine and may never heal. If this makes you "not really happy at all" you need seek help beyond this board to work on healing those wounds.

Some may heal, and some may not. Funny though, how little it may take.
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[Kristofor]

I don't follow links unless I'm on my home computer, and even then almost never go to Youtube, other "social media" sites, or ones that look like video/social sites. When I open a thread and see a link that appears to fit my filtering criteria and close out that's not a direct or even indirect "dis" on the subject matter, just something that didn't make it over the browsing threshold. That probably covers some significant number of your non-responders...

[cabinetman]

Never confuse lack of a post as lack of patriotism.

There was no inference to a lack of patriotism. What impressed me about the post was how a community melded together for the event. I thought that was worth sharing. That coherence created by those people represent what a community can mean. Something like our community here on this forum...sort of.
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