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  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
    • 10627
    • Mebane, NC, USA.
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #1

    Sometimes Old School Just Works

    My laptop has integrated wireless, an atheros chipset. It has been laggy and slow for the last few months. I tried reinstalling, new drivers, etc. The other day I uninstalled the wireless manager my company uses and let Windows manage it. Windows won't do LEAP but I never connect to wireless at work so don't really need it. It was better, but still not all that great. I finally installed an older wireless PC adapter I have and things are already sped up.
    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.
  • pelligrini
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 4217
    • Fort Worth, TX
    • Craftsman 21829

    #2
    I've never considered wireless 'old school' yet.

    10base-T is old school. Coax and ISA cards are ancient.
    Erik

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    • pierhogunn
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2003
      • 1567
      • Harrisburg, NC, USA.

      #3
      I just ran across a serer in our data center today that had a thin-net adapter built onto it's mother board... It was a dec server... probably spent $70,000 on it new... 12 - 15 years ago
      It's Like I've always said, it's amazing what an agnostic can't do if he dosent know whether he believes in anything or not

      Monty Python's Flying Circus

      Dan in Harrisburg, NC

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      • leehljp
        The Full Monte
        • Dec 2002
        • 8804
        • Tunica, MS
        • BT3000/3100

        #4
        Originally posted by pelligrini
        I've never considered wireless 'old school' yet.

        10base-T is old school. Coax and ISA cards are ancient.
        I certainly have - but in a different way. My two home computers are already on "N" and I can tell when I am at a place with "G"; But even worse the original "B" is the pitts! Makes me want to go old school and just hook up direct via ethernet! I am not even going to mention "modems".

        I went cable modem in '97, started wireless in 2000 and never looked back.
        Hank Lee

        Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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        • crokett
          The Full Monte
          • Jan 2003
          • 10627
          • Mebane, NC, USA.
          • Ryobi BT3000

          #5
          Originally posted by pelligrini
          I've never considered wireless 'old school' yet.

          10base-T is old school. Coax and ISA cards are ancient.
          I didn't mean wireless, I meant the adapter. I've had it at least 6 years and yet it is running faster than the one in my 2yr old laptop.
          David

          The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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          • dbhost
            Slow and steady
            • Apr 2008
            • 9568
            • League City, Texas
            • Ryobi BT3100

            #6
            Hey now..

            I have done some consulting work RECENTLY where we upgraded a small business office of 15 PCs and 1 server off of....

            ....


            ....

            Wait for it...



            Token Ring...!
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            • crokett
              The Full Monte
              • Jan 2003
              • 10627
              • Mebane, NC, USA.
              • Ryobi BT3000

              #7
              Wow. Token Ring? Really? Ya know, several years ago I worked for a bank. They were rolling out 1000+ new PCs to users. We would do the rollout by dept. We started getting a rash of calls where a dept would lose network access. I was talking to our dispatcher about it one day and we figured out that it correlated to depts where installs were scheduled. It turned out that folks wouldn't want to wait the 3 or 4 days for us to get out there. There was always one guy who 'knew computers' so he'd pull one out of the box and turn it on. The token ring adapters used dip switches and were set to 4Mbps. The bank was running at 16Mbps and this would knock the hub out. the bank started holding delivery of the machines to the dept until the day we were onsite.
              David

              The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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              • rjwaldren
                Established Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 368
                • Fresno, CA

                #8
                Back in Nov/Dec I was decommissioning our facility. I took 6000+ feet of RG-8 (Thicknet) and probably 2 miles of thinnet. Add to that probably 50 miles of CAT-6 and it made for a nice trip to the recycler.

                Bottom line is old industrial equipment was built around the technology at the time and rarely benefits from upgrading. I wouldn't use it for a personel LAN/WAN though.

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                • JR
                  The Full Monte
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 5636
                  • Eugene, OR
                  • BT3000

                  #9
                  What, no ARCnet? No AppleTalk?

                  JR
                  JR

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                  • Uncle Cracker
                    The Full Monte
                    • May 2007
                    • 7091
                    • Sunshine State
                    • BT3000

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pelligrini
                    I've never considered wireless 'old school' yet.

                    10base-T is old school. Coax and ISA cards are ancient.
                    How 'bout a coupla tin cans and a string??

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                    • pelligrini
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4217
                      • Fort Worth, TX
                      • Craftsman 21829

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Uncle Cracker
                      How 'bout a coupla tin cans and a string??
                      Was that Al Gore's internet?

                      Jeese, I thought I was running some old hardware. I had to replace a 9 gig SCSI drive in my oldest server I have running at the office. It's an ALR 6x6 running six 333Mhz Pentium-pro overdrives. Luckily, I still have a stack of matching Seagate Barracudas. I wish that old AMI Mega-RAID controller had an auto rebuild. At least it has on onboard BIOS frontend. It was dated 1997. Pretty long in the tooth, but it still does fine as the administrative fileserver for our small office.
                      Erik

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                      • rjwaldren
                        Established Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 368
                        • Fresno, CA

                        #12
                        I once replaced a PDP-11 with a MicroVAX, what an improvement, but when we upgraded that to a DEC Alpha 400 it screamed, it's still that way to this day.

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                        • crokett
                          The Full Monte
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 10627
                          • Mebane, NC, USA.
                          • Ryobi BT3000

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JR
                          What, no ARCnet? No AppleTalk?

                          JR
                          You know I worked with a guy who swore this was a true story. He had a computer repair business on the side and one of his clients was a welder/machine shop owner. The guy had two windows machines, one in the house and one out in the shop but ran appletalk to network them. Why? His 'networ' was the barbed wire fence that ran along side both buildings. Apparently it worked pretty well except when it rained. The machinist used appletalk because it was more reliable than NetBui.
                          David

                          The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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                          • Kristofor
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 1331
                            • Twin Cities, MN
                            • Jet JTAS10 Cabinet Saw

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rjwaldren
                            I once replaced a PDP-11 with a MicroVAX, what an improvement, but when we upgraded that to a DEC Alpha 400 it screamed, it's still that way to this day.

                            Hey now! I've still got a VAX running a mission critical app in my data center...

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                            • JR
                              The Full Monte
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 5636
                              • Eugene, OR
                              • BT3000

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Kristofor
                              Hey now! I've still got a VAX running a mission critical app in my data center...
                              You don't work for that big company in St. Paul, do you? At one time they were a HUGE VAX shop.

                              JR
                              JR

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