The gotta have PC peripheral

[Mr__Bill]

I had not realized that I needed this until I saw it.

PC 5.25 Drive Toaster Bay

[MilDoc]

Does it also dispense Beer, or my favorite Scotch?????

[Mr__Bill]

Does it also dispense Beer, or my favorite Scotch?????

Nope, you have to wait for the Mac one for that.....

[pelligrini]

Gotta do something with the 600+ watts that the new PSs are putting out now.

[cabinetman]

Can ya cram a bagel in that there thang?
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[cgallery]

As somone that has serviced literally thousands of PC's, I've seen everything on the inside. Large deposits of toaster crumbs will be something to look forward to, I guess.

[LCHIEN]

I think this USB aimed and fired Missile launcher is the penultimate PC accessory, myself.
There's a wireless version, too, I presume for remote placement and operation.

http://www.vat19.com/dvds/usb-missil...FR7yDAodEhGqfA

[chopnhack]

wow....roach infestation waiting to happen

[BobSch]

Why is tha something I'd expect to see on The Onion?

[Kristofor]

Gotta do something with the 600+ watts that the new PSs are putting out now.

600??? Obviously not a high end gaming rig.

Some of the 3x GPU setups need twice that much juice!

[pelligrini]

Yea, but a dedicated gaming rig already has all that power in use. Some of them probably wouldn't even need a toaster heating element. Just put the bread inside and it'll get all toasty.

A lot of the lower end consumer boxes are getting huge supplies now too.

[chopnhack]

Not to hijack the thread, but arent alot of these new power supply's supposed to be "green". I mean 600w+ p.s. have to give off a ton of heat, no?

[Mr__Bill]

Not to hijack the thread, but arent alot of these new power supply's supposed to be "green". I mean 600w+ p.s. have to give off a ton of heat, no?

I just installed one, it throttles down to what is needed and the fan is VS making most of the time very very quiet and it speeds up when the power supply is pumping out more power.



Bill

[LCHIEN]

Not to hijack the thread, but arent alot of these new power supply's supposed to be "green". I mean 600w+ p.s. have to give off a ton of heat, no?

a 600 watt power supply won't give off 600 watts of heat, even if fuly loaded.

The heat is given off at the load which in this case is the motherboard and circuits, cards and peripherals running off the power supply.

A perfect supply is a 100% efficient power supply, but no power supplies are. Typically switching power supplies of the type in a PC will be 80 to 90 percent efficient which means they will generate 10 to 20 watts of heat for each 100 watts they deliver to a load.

So a fully loaded 600 watt supply (delivering 600 watts to the motherboard) will generate itself about 120 watts of heat, thus the computer and power supply will be disspating about 720 watts into the room as final heat load.

What does greener mean?
A greener power supply would be more efficient generating less heat in the PS.
A greener PC would use less power than 720 watts total by using more efficient power supply, CPUs, memory, chip sets and peripherals.

[Kristofor]

Not to hijack the thread, but arent alot of these new power supply's supposed to be "green". I mean 600w+ p.s. have to give off a ton of heat, no?

Well, I guess in general using less power would be "greener", but the question is more about what's a reasonable/optimal amount of power use for the intended function based on modern technology...

Your car could have a 10HP motor and probably still get you to work, but you would not accelerate very fast, have a very fast top speed, and may need to replace all of the heavy metal parts with lighter alternatives. Likewise it would be possible to have a table saw with a 1/2HP motor, and simply limit yourself to taking 1/4" deep passes (perhaps 8 or more to rip a thick board).

Computing power is the same way. Moore's Law receives a lot of attention about how processing gets faster and cheaper, but a side effect of the same curve is the amount of power per computation actually goes down as the densities and performance increase. A 486 had about 1.2 million transistors, and the simplistic graphics back then added maybe a 1-200K more. Between the CPU and GPU in my main home PC there are over 2.5 billion transistors (closer to 3.5 billion if I were running Nvidia GPUs).... While the power supplies have grown a lot in that time we're talking maybe 10-20x power consumption for ~2000x more computing power.

There is a push to make the power supply more efficient. A few years ago almost none of them were over 80%, now there are several levels of 80%+ certification. However, that's somewhat hampered on systems with large swings in demand (eg gaming PCs that may double they power draw or more when runing their GPU's at full speed). The power supplies are optimized for peak efficiency over a given range, and from what I've read it's hard to make that range cover both 200-400W idle use and 800-1200W peak use.