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  • radhak
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 3061
    • Miramar, FL
    • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

    #1

    Abusive Relationships

    I posted the other thread asking info about divorce processes; this is just a ramble / vent springing from that same case.

    This Young Lady (YL) has been married for 8 years; teaches dancing to a pretty large number of school-age girls (around 80 girls), and has an amazing choreography and music skills. Then she is great in organizing, making herself heard, etc. Teacher and Manager, so to say. Along the way she has formed a strong friendship with LOML.

    Now we are shocked to know that she has always had an abusive husband. Nobody would have suspected anything. I have met him, and found him very suave, if a bit too smooth (no, that's not an afterthought now; I was always uncomfortable with the extremely polite style of talk from him). And she seemed a very dominant lady fully in control of her life.

    Now we know - YL has no money of her own, other than hand-outs from him; her only bank account is joint. her name does not appear on any utility bills, credit cards etc. she does not even have a 'supplement' credit card. (I do believe the mortgage should include her name as it's the law). When she returns from a grocery run she has to give him an explanation of whatever she bought ! She was not 'allowed' to talk to her parents or even her brother who lives locally. And he never allowed her to get a regular job, though she is highly educated - has a masters in micro-biology. They got married while she was in college.

    But the real shocker is the physical abuse. This came out some time ago when LOML noticed her holding a stiff stance, and found a huge bruise on her back. That was for returning late from a dance class, as much as she could recall. What a Pandora's box, her revelations turned out to be!

    When YL said very casually to me, "... early on, he'd push my head under the faucet for not following instructions (as in, cooking differently, or calling her mom against his express orders)...", I could have gagged. I tried my best to impress on her the seriousness of all that; I think she has agreed that the next time he hits her she's gonna call the cops. but then, she's lived with it so long that she's gotten to think the cops are gonna side with him .

    I can't believe I have shook hands with him all this while.

    The good thing is, she's finally sure that she's better off out of it, and he's never gonna be a 'better man' as he has always promised her. We hope we can help her out in all this.
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - Aristotle
  • dbhost
    Slow and steady
    • Apr 2008
    • 9525
    • League City, Texas
    • Ryobi BT3100

    #2
    My only suggestion on this, and having this HUGELY important bit of information is for her, and those around her to...

    #1. Get a restraining order. NOW.
    #2. Get a gun and learn to use it. NOW.

    Abusers seldom leave well enough alone when their victims leave, and restraining orders are only as good as the paper they are printed on, or for prosecuting the offender after something MAJOR has happened, either a permanently disabling assault, or murder.

    This woman, her friends, AND her family need to know how to defend themselves.

    The news has been full, especially lately of these nutbags going off on not only their original victim, but taking out plenty of innocent bystanders. DO NOT WAIT TO BE A HEADLINE!

    The police can only pursue the matter AFTER a crime has been committed, or if they just HAPPEN to be there when it happens. The odds of that are WAY too small...
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    • crokett
      The Full Monte
      • Jan 2003
      • 10627
      • Mebane, NC, USA.
      • Ryobi BT3000

      #3
      When I was in college I dated a woman who had been in an abusive relationship before I met her. The abuser was her high school boyfriend and she stayed with him for 5 years. I met her several months after that ended and learned/figured out what had been going on fairly quickly. I made the mistake of thinking I could fix her. What she really needed was counseling but I am not sure she ever got any. She broke up with me after about 6 months and I still believe it was because I was normal and she didn't really know how to handle a normal healthy relationship.

      So... your friend needs counseling. Encourage her to get it, or at least to find a support group.
      David

      The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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      • bruce hylton
        Established Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 211
        • winlock, wa
        • Dewalt today

        #4
        If it is bad enough to get involved, he should probably be slowed down with a small brake failure while standing between two vehicles, and later mended with a small sock and large bar of soap two or three times in the dark. Maybe treated to a wet bath towel massage to relieve the mental stress that his actions are going to require. Better make sure that it isn't a mutual consent type thing first. Or stay out of things and let the law take care of it.

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        • Raffi
          Established Member
          • Sep 2003
          • 198
          • CA, USA.

          #5
          Originally posted by dbhost

          #1. Get a restraining order. NOW.
          #2. Get a gun and learn to use it. NOW.
          Definitely
          Goes for you if you are going to help, and her. Get her into a shelter ASAP.

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          • cgallery
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2004
            • 4503
            • Milwaukee, WI
            • BT3K

            #6
            dbhost is right on both counts. This woman can't be too careful, and neither can anyone that helps her.

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            • dbhost
              Slow and steady
              • Apr 2008
              • 9525
              • League City, Texas
              • Ryobi BT3100

              #7
              I hate like he77 that I am right on this account. I wish I weren't. But I have seen too much from too many nut cases over the years...

              Failure of the state to protect us from the psycho nut jobs out there is one reason I stand where I do on certain issues.
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              • Knottscott
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2004
                • 3815
                • Rochester, NY.
                • 2008 Shop Fox W1677

                #8
                Reading this just gave me the urge to kick some keester of someone I've never even met. That really sucks. I hope and pray that things turn out well for her.
                Happiness is sort of like wetting your pants....everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.

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                • Ed62
                  The Full Monte
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 6021
                  • NW Indiana
                  • BT3K

                  #9
                  It's kind of odd that so many of these cases can go on for as long as they do before it comes out. There's no doubt that she needs help, and I hope she gets it. But she can't be too careful at any time in the future. I'll say a little prayer for her. Nobody deserves to live like that.

                  Ed
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                  • chopnhack
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3779
                    • Florida
                    • Ryobi BT3100

                    #10
                    Man, she has to be real careful....all I can picture at the moment is Julia Roberts and that psycho screaming after her...LAURA!! No joke intended. As others have said she needs to get protection and to get out of dodge. She will probably do really well to get some personal counseling as she got hitched young.
                    I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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                    • jackellis
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 2638
                      • Tahoe City, CA, USA.
                      • BT3100

                      #11
                      Abusive relationships like the one Radhak described are more common than you might think. Economic status is not a barrier, either.

                      This story was a real eye opener for me.

                      Folks, don't let your daughters grow up to be someone's toy.

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                      • Greg in Maryland
                        Established Member
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 250
                        • Montgomery Village, Maryland
                        • BT3100

                        #12
                        Radhak,

                        How very sad. Hopefully the woman will take the steps to protect herself and any children that they may have. It takes a lot of courage for a person to leave an abuser, and support from friends and family. You and your wife perhaps can be the spark that permits her to find her courage ....

                        Originally posted by jackellis
                        Folks, don't let your daughters grow up to be someone's toy.
                        I would add to that: Folks, don't let your sons grow up to be abusers.

                        Greg

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