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  • Ed62
    The Full Monte
    • Oct 2006
    • 6021
    • NW Indiana
    • BT3K

    #1

    More lives cut short

    I don't know if there's an answer for this kind of stuff http://losangeles.angels.mlb.com/new...=.jsp&c_id=ana . Maybe this is worth a consideration https://secure2.convio.net/madd/site...omepage&id=477 .

    Ed
    Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

    For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/
  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
    • 10627
    • Mebane, NC, USA.
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #2
    That is a good idea, but too easy to avoid. I could borrow a car, rent a car, etc and just not drive mine with the ignition interlock. Although if it is true that it reduces DUI by 64% then maybe it is worthwhile.
    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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    • Ed62
      The Full Monte
      • Oct 2006
      • 6021
      • NW Indiana
      • BT3K

      #3
      Originally posted by crokett
      if it is true that it reduces DUI by 64% then maybe it is worthwhile.
      If it reduces DUIs any at all, it might be worth it. I don't see a downside to it.

      Ed
      Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

      For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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      • Richard in Smithville
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2006
        • 3014
        • On the TARDIS
        • BT 3100

        #4
        Originally posted by Ed62
        If it reduces DUIs any at all, it might be worth it. I don't see a downside to it.

        Ed

        I agree 100% with you Ed. If someone gets caught driving impaired, I have no sympathy with what he/she gets. The only sad part is the damage done by them.
        From the "deep south" part of Canada

        Richard in Smithville

        http://richardspensandthings.blogspot.com/

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        • Uncle Cracker
          The Full Monte
          • May 2007
          • 7091
          • Sunshine State
          • BT3000

          #5
          Personally, I think it's a good idea, but I'm sure the civil-rights lawyers would have a field day with it.

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          • BobSch
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2004
            • 4385
            • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
            • BT3100

            #6
            Originally posted by Uncle Cracker
            Personally, I think it's a good idea, but I'm sure the civil-rights lawyers would have a field day with it.
            So strap the lawyers to the front of the cars being driven by DUIs and wait for the inevitable.

            (Just joking... mostly.)
            Bob

            Bad decisions make good stories.

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            • Mr__Bill
              Veteran Member
              • May 2007
              • 2096
              • Tacoma, WA
              • BT3000

              #7
              Personally I think that DUI + accident = never drive again.
              Anyone who allows the person to drive also looses the privilege.

              No accident? Then sentence the offender to time in an emergency ward or perhaps digging graves by hand.

              I believe in giving someone who makes a mistake a break but DUI is premeditated.

              Bill, I'm back to defrosting my frost free fridge, thinking ice box may be a good retro-retrofit!

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              • LCHIEN
                Super Moderator
                • Dec 2002
                • 22040
                • Katy, TX, USA.
                • BT3000 vintage 1999

                #8
                all these rules about taking away driving license for DUI and stuff don't work, the criminals just drive without licenses. What's the deterrent of added charge of D/W out a license added on to DUI anyway?
                Loring in Katy, TX USA
                If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                • Mrs. Wallnut
                  Bandsaw Box Momma
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 1566
                  • Ellensburg, Washington, USA.

                  #9
                  Well here is my opinion. There are ways around an interlock system. If you have sober passengers they can "blow" into it for you, I have heard of this being done and know someone who probably does it, but that is a whole other story.

                  But for some people having the interlock system does work. I know two people, one being a brother, who that system has worked for. My brother had his license taken away for over a year and now has it back, he has paid his fines through the court and taken the classes and will have that system taken off his vehicle in July I think he told me.

                  But I do know some others who still drink and drive and I do not hesitate to take the keys or even call the police when I know there is a drunk driver. I have done so on a few occasions when I was the night shift cashier.

                  But I agree with Loring, some people think "so what I don't have a license so I will drive anyways. What are they going to do let me spend a couple of days in jail and then I am free again." I think that there should be something else for these people. Its just like last year when a 15 year old backed into me at a gas station. He wasn't old enough to drive for one and didn't have a permit or an adult with him. And because we were on private property the officers that showed up couldn't do anything to him. Not even give him a ticket or the parents a ticket. That one still chaps my hide.

                  But too many people think they are invincible when they drink and think they are fine. And that right there is part of the problem because most of their friends think things are fine also.
                  Mrs. Wallnut a.k.a (the head nut).

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                  • cgallery
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 4503
                    • Milwaukee, WI
                    • BT3K

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mrs. Wallnut
                    I think that there should be something else for these people.
                    I like corporal punishment. It doesn't kill you, so we needn't allow people endless appeals. And pain is a wonderful motivator.

                    Go ahead and drink. But if you drive, we will sober you up and then cane you.

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                    • Wood_workur
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 1914
                      • Ohio
                      • Ryobi bt3100-1

                      #11
                      If there is a sober passenger, why wouldn't they be driving? I'd feel safer being on the road with someone without a license diving than a drunk driver driving.
                      Alex

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                      • Uncle Cracker
                        The Full Monte
                        • May 2007
                        • 7091
                        • Sunshine State
                        • BT3000

                        #12
                        In FL, a DUI manslaughter is a guaranteed minimum 8 years in the slam... No early release... No pass "Go"... No collect $200... You just drop off the planet for 8 years. (Of course, not as bad as dropping off permanently...)

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                        • BobSch
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 4385
                          • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
                          • BT3100

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Wood_workur
                          If there is a sober passenger, why wouldn't they be driving? I'd feel safer being on the road with someone without a license diving than a drunk driver driving.
                          You've obviously never run into the obnoxious putz who insists that he's not "that drunk" and thinks he can drive just fine.

                          We used to party with a bunch of friends and the "Designated Stiff" for the night would collect everyone's keys at the beginning of the evening and only give them back if he or she felt the person was capable of driving or call them a cab if not. Of course, that was several years ago and, lawyers being what they are, today the DS would probably get sued if someone was in an accident.
                          Bob

                          Bad decisions make good stories.

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                          • cwithboat
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 614
                            • 47deg54.3'N 122deg34.7'W
                            • Craftsman Pro 21829

                            #14
                            Mrs. Wallnut take note

                            In our state there is a three strikes law. If DUI becomes a felony then 3 instances puts the perpetrator in jail for life. Contact your state representative.
                            regards,
                            Charlie
                            A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.
                            Rudyard Kipling

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