computer problem

**BobSch** · 03-16-2009, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Zenaca

I ran the AVG spyware i have installed a complete scan (2.5 hrs long) andit came up with nothing!

The windoze defender keeps sending me to a site to buy thier program.

Should i trust the AVG or not?

bud

First, Is AVG up to date? You MUST to check for updates daily. AVG can be set up to do it automatically or you can do it manually.

I'm not sure to what you're referring to with "windoze defender" but if it's another piece of anti-virus software, you've got a problem already. NEVER have more than one AV program on a system at a time � they don't play well together.

A good program to use along with AVG is Malware Bytes http://www.malwarebytes.org/ Download the free version and run it to check for rootkits, trojans and other uglies.

A good spyware scanner is also a must. Superantispyware http://www.superantispyware.com/ is highly recommended.

Check http://www.williamaford.com/ for more info. Bill's a good guy and knows what he's talking about.

Good luck.

**crokett** · 03-16-2009, 01:38 PM

Windows Defender is a free program from Microsoft and you don't have to buy it. If you mean Windows Antivirus 2008 or Windows Antivirus 2009, those are malware/spyware. The only thing I've found that cleaned them was Spybot Search and Destry. My wife's laptop and my in-laws both got this malware. The only thing I found that fixed it was Spybot. Yes they are both also running AVG antivirus.

**bfrikken** · 03-16-2009, 02:03 PM

Also, some of these websites are getting a little crazy and tricky. They have webpage popups that look like your antivirus is going off. And it mirrors the look of windows defender. They'll have the "Click here to see results" and a number of "Virus found click here to delete." type links that lead you into infecting your own pc.

**Zenaca** · 03-16-2009, 02:22 PM

bfrikken that is exactly what id did so i stopped before downloading any thing to check here with you guys!

So i guess i just close those windows and run the spybot and avg again?

And it kept poping up windows to go to thier site to buy thier program for $60 a year.

**crokett** · 03-16-2009, 02:48 PM

Best thing to do is download the updates for Spybot, then reboot Windows to safe mode w/networking then run spybot to disinfect everything.

**Zenaca** · 03-16-2009, 02:52 PM

Thanks alot guys i just got done downloading spybot and it is running as we speak.

I knew you guys would save the day!

Bud

**cgallery** · 03-16-2009, 03:10 PM

www.superantispyware.com, the free for home user's version, will clean it.

**smorris** · 03-16-2009, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by cgallery

www.superantispyware.com, the free for home user's version, will clean it.

That's the one we use for that particular problem and it cleans it. This is one of the best I've found, it works better than spybot often.

**pelligrini** · 03-16-2009, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by Zenaca

And it kept poping up windows to go to thier site to buy thier program for $60 a year.

More than all likely it was a scam page, especially with the ad.

**crokett** · 03-16-2009, 04:23 PM

I am biting my tongue to not suggest -my- final cure for viruses and malware.

**dbhost** · 03-16-2009, 05:41 PM

I'm probably going to get another negative feedback on this... But I have said this before, and I will say it again... If you were running Linux, you would not have needed to make this thread...

I don't mean to sound mean or nasty here, but if you truly want to do away with this problem, get off of virus prone operating systems once and for all...

Ubuntu is the most Windows user friendly version out there, and worth a look...

**sparkeyjames** · 03-16-2009, 06:50 PM

I have cleaned so many systems I'm sick of doing it but hey I want my relatives and friends to remain on good terms. Any way I use the following AVG free anti virus, Spybot Search and Destroy, Adaware, Microsofts Windows Defender and a program called "Hijack This". 'Hijack This' is a program that finds all the stuff windows runs at startup and allows you to eliminate them as many virus's and malware try to vector in this way. I also look at Norton and McAfee's sites for single virus stand alone scan programs. The only problem I have is that Spybot S&D can take what seems like forever to scan a system but it is thorough and sometimes it likes to scan the system twice if it finds a startup vector it does not like and needs to rescan on a reboot. Last one took 2 hours 20 minutes to scan a system twice. Also pay quit a bit of attention to BHO's (browser helper objects) for IE 6,7. I have found MANY virus's and malware that vector in this way. Some seem to take a 2 pronged attack in that the same virus/malware trys to set up a BHO and startup mechanism. If one fails the other one, if it can still run, resets the disabled part. These can be tricky to eliminate. The ones I despise the most are programs that insert themselves into the network stack. Getting these out invariably require a system repair reinstall.
Most of the programs I have found that try to reset the networking stack in windows do not do a very good job of it.
I also from time to time depending on the situation I like to install the free version of ZoneAlarm firewall. Zone Alarm needs some interactivity on the part of the user to be effective and for people who are afraid of their computers or are just not very computer savvy it can seem intimidating. Just don't run ZoneAlarm on high security as it tends to cut the computer almost completely off from the network.

**sparkeyjames** · 03-16-2009, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by dbhost

I'm probably going to get another negative feedback on this... But I have said this before, and I will say it again... If you were running Linux, you would not have needed to make this thread...

I don't mean to sound mean or nasty here, but if you truly want to do away with this problem, get off of virus prone operating systems once and for all...

Ubuntu is the most Windows user friendly version out there, and worth a look...

If your running Linux people will for sure know you are a computer geek and will target you as a person who can fix THEIR computer. Run RUN Faster.

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