Vick...Here We Go Again

[Pappy]

I don't care how good he was, is, or could be. My hope is that the fans of any team showing interest that this scourge of humanity is not wanted anywhere!

On a positive note, I heard his home is being auctioned to settle bankruptcy rulings.

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[JoeyGee]

This nation has a very short memory when it comes to celebrities and their wrongdoings. I said at the time he was convicted that I had no doubt he would play again in the NFL, and despite a not-so-stellar response to initial inquiries, I don't think the Falcons will have any trouble trading him somewere. Sure, he'll get the league minimum, but he will end up somewhere in the NFL.

I remember thinking Michael Jackson would never be popular again after the first (93?) allegations of molestation, or whatever the actual terminology was. It wasn't long before I saw a prime time tribute to him with NSynch and others singing his praises. It's probably just a matter of time before he's a headliner in Vegas after again skating from more allegations.

Vick will be back, as disgusting as that is.

[Stytooner]

People can and do learn from their mistakes sometimes. Not so sure about Michale Jackson though.
As for giving Vick a second shot in the NFL, I doubt I would, but I don't make the call.

[LCHIEN]

I'm not saying I'd hire him, for many teams its the bottom line. A quarterback with skills possibly going for a bargain price.

Another argument is that he's done his time according to the federal courts, he's paid a lot of fines monetarily, is his debt to society fulfilled? Legally, yes, altho you may not think so, there's some people who think he's done no wrong. He's probably learned at least one of two lessons - don't deal in dog fighting and gambling, or don't get caught.

So, I expect we'll see him back.

[billwmeyer]

Vick

I have read that a lot of teams might take a chance on him in a modified role. He might be used in the wildcat formation, or as in the role of a receiver, kick returner, etc. I don't think he will make the mistakes that some of the other players, such as Pacman Jones. I think he is smarter than that and will stay clean. He is a very talented athlete, but I would be just as happy if he went to Canada to play.

Bill

[Uncle Cracker]

The man has done his time. He deserves to be able to make a living (otherwise, who gets stuck with the tab for his upkeep?). That said, there is still the fact that the dog-fighting thing, in addition to being barbaric, also involves gambling. Pretty sure the NFL should be concerned about this.

[crokett]

I am NOT condoning what he did in any way, but supposing you had a very unique, high-value skill set. Also supposing tomorrow you were to go out and rob a bank. Do you think that after you paid your debt to society you wouldn't be hired again?

[SARGE..g-47]

Arthur Blank under no circustances I believe.. would allow him to return to the Falcons which is my home-town team. Arthur Blank is a very intelligent and smart business-man dedicated to putting Winners on the field. The fact he won't allow his return tells me something about both Arthur Blank and Michael Vick.

I could care less what happens as long as he doesn't return to the Falcons and I can almost positively assure you he won't...

[BerniePA]

Arthur Blank under no circustances I believe.. would allow him to return to the Falcons which is my home-town team. Arthur Blank is a very intelligent and smart business-man dedicated to putting Winners on the field. The fact he won't allow his return tells me something about both Arthur Blank and Michael Vick.

I could care less what happens as long as he doesn't return to the Falcons and I can almost positively assure you he won't...

I don't think that he would end up with the Steelers, either.

[LCHIEN]

Arthur Blank under no circustances I believe.. would allow him to return to the Falcons which is my home-town team. Arthur Blank is a very intelligent and smart business-man dedicated to putting Winners on the field. The fact he won't allow his return tells me something about both Arthur Blank and Michael Vick.

I could care less what happens as long as he doesn't return to the Falcons and I can almost positively assure you he won't...

Yeah but he'd be willing to trade Vick's contract for money or other compensation... I'm sure he won't turn down money. .

[430752]

I dunno, but I was never too down on the guy. Dogfighting? Well, I can't condone it, but since when is it a federal crime? And why? What is it about dog fighting that requires the involvement of the G-Men and the force of the federal govt. Me thinks that's a reach and an area where the feds have overstretched. And me thinks dogfighting is a cruel and nasty sport, but one with which this country grew (read any Jack London anyone?) and one which shouldn't destroy a man's life. Last I checked dogs were property, not humans. No, don't fight them, that's cruel and barbaric, but the guy wasn't molesting children, kidnapping, raping, murdering, or etc. And, America is the land of Second Chances. That's our role in the world, take the beat, broken, downtrodden, poor, and outcast and let 'em shine.

So I say Michael Vick is a sadistic animal torturer, but hardly guilty of crimes that should prevent him from playing ball, making money, and getting on with his life. He has (or soon will be done) paid his time to society and he should be given all freedoms associated with that. I never liked the guy, and will always think of him with much taint, but keep him from his profession for dog fighting??? Nope, just my .02

[stormdog74]

The guy has Raiders written all over him - maybe they can overpay him too.

I don't think anyone will trade for him - too much money in that contract for such a risk. He will most likely be released - and eventually in a Raiders uniform.

[newood2]

that this scourge of humanity is not wanted anywhere!

That's pretty strong language. Would such intense scorn be equally dispensed on the certain culture who for centuries have been savagely and inhumanely mutilating bulls, or on those who engage in cock-fighting in this country which, in my view is just as, or even more brutal than dog fights. Some may submit that bullfighting is a legal and respected sport in some other culture, but it is the same brutal carnage of helpless animals.
I have noticed how selective we are, particularly in sports, when it comes to choosing whom (from the ones fallen from grace) to demonize and banished from life. I have stated before that I am not a fan of Michael Vick or any other sport figure. But if they have paid for their sins, let it go. But then again all human beings have their individual biases
BTW, documented government reports have shown that many dog breeders have done worse in their cruelty.

[crokett]

I dunno, but I was never too down on the guy. Dogfighting? Well, I can't condone it, but since when is it a federal crime? And why? What is it about dog fighting that requires the involvement of the G-Men and the force of the federal govt.

Not a lawyer and I didn't stay at Holiday Inn, but I believe it was

a) transporting the dogs across state lines for illegal activity/criminal enterprise (dogfighting)

and/or

b) gambling across state lines

.