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  • jussi
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 2162

    #1

    Comp question - XP user accounts

    I'd like to use a limited account on my comp as I understand it's a safer practice because limited accounts aren't allowed to install programs. Therefore if I download virus it won't be able to install any malware. But when I install programs using an admin account I can't see them on the limited account. Any suggestions?
    I reject your reality and substitute my own.
  • LCHIEN
    Super Moderator
    • Dec 2002
    • 22071
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #2
    ah you can see them, you just don't have a icon on that user's desktop.
    If you go to c:\documents and settings
    you should see folders for an adminstrator account and the user account you created.
    There will also be a "all users" account
    If the administrator installed the application and it created a desktop shortcut, the shortcut will be in the folder c:\documents and settings\adminstrator\desktop
    copy it from there to c:\documents and settings\all users\desktop and all users of that machine will have an icon on their desktop and can click on the icon to launch the program, or if you only want some users to have it, then only copy it to the desktop folder for those users.
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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    • Ed62
      The Full Monte
      • Oct 2006
      • 6021
      • NW Indiana
      • BT3K

      #3
      Originally posted by jussi
      if I download virus it won't be able to install any malware.
      Is that actually true? If so, I need to make another account.

      Ed
      Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

      For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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      • jussi
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 2162

        #4
        Thanks Loring. I had a feeling it wasn't there but couldn't figure out how to transfer all the shortcuts. I'll give it a try.

        Ed,

        I haven't actually tried this myself yet since I've been too lazy to keep switching accounts. I got a virus recently and after doing a reformat I decided it was worth a try. As I understand it, limited accounts are limited to what they can download and install so computer attacks from the outside are also limited. The disadvantage is that some programs need to run on an admin account. I think it will be mostly advantageous for surfing. Which is was what I do 60% of the time when I'm on the comp anyways.
        Last edited by jussi; 12-15-2008, 06:44 PM.
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        • crokett
          The Full Monte
          • Jan 2003
          • 10627
          • Mebane, NC, USA.
          • Ryobi BT3000

          #5
          Here is an article that says Limited User works, but does limit what you can do with the PC:

          http://ask-leo.com/are_limited_user_...effective.html

          I'd rather just keep my anti-virus, etc updated, be careful where I go on the 'net and run an account with full privileges.
          Last edited by crokett; 12-15-2008, 07:17 PM.
          David

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          • LCHIEN
            Super Moderator
            • Dec 2002
            • 22071
            • Katy, TX, USA.
            • BT3000 vintage 1999

            #6
            well, theoretically the limited user thing is more secure, but in my experience its a pain in the butt. Say you're surfing and you find a link to a video or a document, you need a new plug in or a updated Adobe reader or whatever. You have to close everything (browser included), log off, change users, go back to the site where the link to the new driver is, load it, then log off again, log back on as the user, open the browser again (breathe heavily now) enter the site for the third time and then finally view the file you wanted to see 10 minutes ago.
            Loring in Katy, TX USA
            If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
            BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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            • crokett
              The Full Monte
              • Jan 2003
              • 10627
              • Mebane, NC, USA.
              • Ryobi BT3000

              #7
              Loring, that pretty much describes my experience trying to run a limited user mode. Linux (or at least Ubuntu) does it better. You could temporarily switch to root privileges to do whatever you needed to do then switch back without logging out.
              David

              The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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              • LinuxRandal
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2005
                • 4890
                • Independence, MO, USA.
                • bt3100

                #8
                Originally posted by LCHIEN
                well, theoretically the limited user thing is more secure, but in my experience its a pain in the butt. Say you're surfing and you find a link to a video or a document, you need a new plug in or a updated Adobe reader or whatever. You have to close everything (browser included), log off, change users, go back to the site where the link to the new driver is, load it, then log off again, log back on as the user, open the browser again (breathe heavily now) enter the site for the third time and then finally view the file you wanted to see 10 minutes ago.
                Originally posted by crokett
                Loring, that pretty much describes my experience trying to run a limited user mode. Linux (or at least Ubuntu) does it better. You could temporarily switch to root privileges to do whatever you needed to do then switch back without logging out.
                You can also run a program with an argument (:H off the top of my head) that will allow the program to continue running, when you have logged out.
                Or you can just open another session (ctrl F#).

                I have used the former, to randomly play mp3's while logged out of the pc (pc output to stereo).
                She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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                • Ed62
                  The Full Monte
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 6021
                  • NW Indiana
                  • BT3K

                  #9
                  Hmmmm, good info. Thanks.

                  Ed
                  Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

                  For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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