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  • Alex Franke
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    • Feb 2007
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    • Chapel Hill, NC
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    Mortgage rates coming down pretty low...

    I just refinanced a month or so ago, but I might end up doing it again! I got a call last night from one of the brokers I was working with a month ago -- rates went below 5% for a bit on Tuesday. This article is talks about plans for 4.5%. That's cheap money!

    And if you don't own yet -- imaging a $22,000 tax credit for buying one

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  • jackellis
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    • Nov 2003
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    #2
    We've just drawn down a home equity line to finance construction of our retirement home. I'm crossing my fingers that rates stay low for about another 12 months until we can put a mortgage on the place. Otherwise we're going to be eating a lot of beans.

    The good news is that it's costing us about 1/3rd less now than it would have cost a year ago. The really good news is that I'll have a real shop to make sawdust in.

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    • Uncle Cracker
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      • May 2007
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      • Sunshine State
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      #3
      The rates are low, but required down payments for the top rates are way up, and any flat spots on your credit report will likely get you rejected (which, in itself, puts another flat spot on your credit report). Also, loan valuations are very conservative with the unstable market, made worse by the fact that you must use an appraiser designated by the bank. The time is right if you know you got the chops, but you'll waste a lot of $$$ in application fees if you are anywhere close to marginal. It's back to where the only folks who can get loans are the ones who don't need them.

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      • crokett
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        • Jan 2003
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        • Mebane, NC, USA.
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        #4
        Cracker, I guess houses are different than cars? I had no problems getting the loan for the van. Also, I think a refi may be easier to get than a new home purchase.
        David

        The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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        • atgcpaul
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          • Aug 2003
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          #5
          Originally posted by Alex Franke
          I just refinanced a month or so ago, but I might end up doing it again! I got a call last night from one of the brokers I was working with a month ago -- rates went below 5% for a bit on Tuesday. This article is talks about plans for 4.5%. That's cheap money!

          And if you don't own yet -- imaging a $22,000 tax credit for buying one

          http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...FR9cQD94RI8AG0

          I'm crossing my fingers. I just started looking into a refi this week.

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          • cgallery
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            • Sep 2004
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            • Milwaukee, WI
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            #6
            The report I heard last night was that the lowest rates wouldn't be available for refinancing, just new purchases. Although one of the commentators did ask, "what is to prevent my selling my house to my brother, and him selling it back to me?"

            Nobody knew the answer to that one. A few commentators said it would be pretty difficult to keep the refis out.

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            • Uncle Cracker
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              • May 2007
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              #7
              Originally posted by crokett
              Cracker, I guess houses are different than cars?
              You betcha... especially now.

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              • jackellis
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                • Nov 2003
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                #8
                It's back to where the only folks who can get loans are the ones who don't need them.
                My take is that we're back to the place where only folks who can demonstrate an ability to repay loans will get them.

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                • jhart
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jackellis
                  My take is that we're back to the place where only folks who can demonstrate an ability to repay loans will get them.

                  Probably the way it should be and should have been.
                  Joe
                  "All things are difficult before they are easy"

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                  • Alex Franke
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                    • Feb 2007
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                    • Chapel Hill, NC
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Uncle Cracker
                    The rates are low, but required down payments for the top rates are way up, and any flat spots on your credit report will likely get you rejected (which, in itself, puts another flat spot on your credit report). Also, loan valuations are very conservative with the unstable market, made worse by the fact that you must use an appraiser designated by the bank. The time is right if you know you got the chops, but you'll waste a lot of $$$ in application fees if you are anywhere close to marginal. It's back to where the only folks who can get loans are the ones who don't need them.
                    I guess a lot of this depends on the circumstances. We brought only closing costs to the table and didn't need an appraisal or new title insurance (they re-issued the last one from 5 years earlier.)

                    Anyway it's probably worth checking into if they do drop below 5 again.
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                    • pecker
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                      • Jun 2003
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                      #11
                      And you'll be paying it back in worthless, inflated dollars.

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                      • DaveS
                        • May 2003
                        • 596
                        • Minneapolis,MN

                        #12
                        I have a friend whose home sale just fell through because an audit appraiser for the mortgage company re-appraised the house two days before the closing and added an additional 10% decline for the upcoming year, dropping the home value below the sale price. They did this without even looking at the house, and applied the 10% reduction based on national real estate trends, not the local market (which has been flat).

                        It seems the mortgage industry, in their haste to save themselves, will cause the housing prices to sink even faster.

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                        • DUD
                          Royal Jester
                          • Dec 2002
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                          • Jonesboro, Arkansas, USA.
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                          #13
                          My Brother just borrowed $450.00 at 5.3% to buy a few rental houses that He is

                          getting very cheap. We are thinking about refinancing Our home, but that is hard to do

                          when it is paid for. Bill
                          5 OUT OF 4 PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND FRACTIONS.

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                          • Alex Franke
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by DUD
                            My Brother just borrowed $450.00 at 5.3% to buy a few rental houses that He is getting very cheap.
                            $450 for 3 houses? Very cheap, indeed!

                            Congrats on post #3000!
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